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Old 07-01-2009, 10:36 PM   #1
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Default does lid airbox stay closed with cold temperature?

this morning i used my car with a heavy negative temperature (about -10°c)...
after oil and water engine at good level, i pushed the throttle more to ear the great carbone sound after 1 week park in my garage (12°C inside)...
But i realised that my carbon airbox refused to open the lid but nevertheless sport mode was on...

so, does electronic is sensible to cold temperature or it's a protection against frozen air and not open for not inhale directly?
Is somebody has meet this problèm before?

thanks for your experience
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:59 PM   #2
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Opens just fine, get someone to take a look while you rev it past 4k in sport mode. Might be stuck, common problem.
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Old 08-01-2009, 09:56 AM   #3
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Mine was opening when stood still, but was intermittent whilst moving


Took the dam thing out! Cured! :D
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:00 PM   #4
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Remove flap - 5 minute job - problem gone!
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:33 PM   #5
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I spoke to Thorney about their views on the whole flap removal thing, their opinion was , they wouldnt recommend it.
Basically, when running in normal mode, for the majority of the rev range the engine breathes through a much smaller inlet, and most work at part /light throttle/ low revs, with the flap removed, it would be running a bit rich as it compensates for the extra air it registers entering the engine.
Not a major problem as such, but having looked at the difference in the inlets behind the flap, (as in the bit used when the flap is closed, below 3,500 in sport and 6,000 in normal) there is a massive difference in potential airflow.
They said for the sake of £40 ish on a car of this value, why not just buy another flap actuator/solonoid, they run their cars with the flap in situ.
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Old 08-01-2009, 04:31 PM   #6
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That's not right. Removing the flap doesn't mean the engine suddenly gets more air than it's expecting. The throttle opening controls how much air enters the engine. It's different if it's jammed shut so overall air flow is restricted, but being jammed open (or removed) makes sod all difference - with or without sport mode.
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:18 PM   #7
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There was a similar thread on PureGT - See Here if you have Access

But SpineOnABap is correct it makes no difference. Don't know what Thorney is on about?
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The only thing i would say is if it works without it why did BMW Motrsport fit it
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:43 PM   #9
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But SpineOnABap is correct it makes no difference. Don't know what Thorney is on about?
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that post still makes me laugh re BMS/Thorney
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Old 09-01-2009, 12:41 AM   #10
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The only thing i would say is if it works without it why did BMW Motrsport fit it
Why do so many sports cars have exhaust valves these days?
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