SG NO OPTIONS CSL 17950 Miles

[nickjohnson]

I bought this CSL from its third owner in 2010 with 16000 miles on for about £4000 less than what you would pay for an A/C model at the time (£28500)
I was told by the third owner there were only 15 no options cars made which I later found after I sold it the second time around that this was a lot less.
I sold it a week later for £31500 to one of my most memorable clients who at the time was 82 year old and also in ownership of a short wheel base Quattro sport ( Recently advertised on Classic and Sports cars for £495000 ) and series 1 GT3 996. Last year at 86 John decided he wanted a Vantage V12 so asked me to come and collect the car and was happy to take roughly what I sold it to him for
Like an E30 Evo Sport or Stradale the examples that become most desirable are the ones truest to the original concept. The launch poster for the CSL says "100% Muscle, 0 % Fat" so an extra 50 KGs of weight makes a full spec car a lardy piece of lardy cake!!! unlike the spec which posted the original official time round the ring of 7:50 by a no options LHD car.

Not sure if I dreamt this but are LHD CSLs supposed to be slightly quicker due to the exhaust manifolding needing to be changed to allow for the seat on the right and the steering column meaning slightly decreased flow?

Anyways I then sold it to a chap who stored it with me until now and hasnt even driven it!!!!! It covered 700 miles with its now 87 year old owner. in which time it had an inspection 2 service and brand new PS2s which are still 7.5 mm . We also had the subframes fixed by BMW Oxford ,which Id imagine was down to the 87 year boy racer launching it everywhere he went......just kidding although not about the subframe as that's no laughing matter

PDI 10/11/04
Running in service BMW 462miles 11/04
oil service BMW 10505miles 4/07
insp 1 BMW/Mini service centre 16124 10/09
insp 2 BMW 17394 4/12
oil BMW 17866 6/14

Subframe fixed with pictures May 2014

I also have pictures of the humidity controlled 500 year old barn the car was stored in whilst with John LLoyd who would be happy to talk about the car with any potential owner which I think helps to make everything a little more special as he, along with the services and paperwork, are part of the cars history.

So any thoughts on what I should sell it for?
I must also say Ive been involved with a good majority of the very low mileage CSLs sold in the UK over the past few years and none have as good history as this with about 7 out of the 10 sub 15000 mile cars having only had a running-in service and one other service and some of the sub 10000 mile cars Ive sold have only had their running in service done and nothing after that

I hope this car stays in this country too so ermmmmmmm maybe lets get a few people together and each put in £10000 and rap it up in a bubble until its 20th birthday and worth ( Doctor Evil finger to lips ) 1 MILLION DOLLARS!!!!! sorry about that

So I don't think its too out of the way to think that CSLs will be £50000 to £150000 with in 5 to 10 years . If you'd have told an E30 Evo Sport owner 10 years ago that his £15000 car would be worth £50000 in ten years they would have tilted their heads like a confused dog and stared blankly at you...... now theyre £100000 so CSLs doubling in the next ten years doesn't seem out of the question

[nw99]

Would imagine it would sell for £85k

[SMD]

Is this my old option less ca i sold in 2009 with 11k miles?
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1738


I bought the car originally from Neil the forum founder.

Cheers

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by SMD

Is this my old option less ca i sold in 2009 with 11k miles?
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1738


I bought the car originally from Neil the forum founder.

Cheers

thats gotta slash its value


nice car NIck, hope it sells for £100k

[Scott]

Nick, sounds like you have a car with a great story behind it and one that would put any new owner at ease. I would suggest that if the condition matches the history then you should be advertising it for £99,000. I can't see another car like that coming up for sale and I know for a fact the other optionless car has more than double the miles

[Yanto]

Depends who you ask

Does sound nice though. Be interesting to see how it fares. GLWS

[duktail]

Nick, I sent you a PM

[Touring]

No options cars are a very limited market, most buyers seem to prefer air-con particularly for Euro hoons and track days. Whilst 18,000 miles is low, it's not sufficiently low to warranty a significant premium (IMO). £60k would be very strong money for a car such as this. Ultimately it's worth what someone is prepared to pay - based on recent sales of sub 10,000 mile cars I believe this car's value to be in the mid 50s £k. IIRC it sold for slightly less than this 12 months ago.

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by Touring

No options cars are a very limited market, most buyers seem to prefer air-con particularly for Euro hoons and track days. Whilst 18,000 miles is low, it's not sufficiently low to warranty a significant premium (IMO). £60k would be very strong money for a car such as this. Ultimately it's worth what someone is prepared to pay - based on recent sales of sub 10,000 mile cars I believe this car's value to be in the mid 50s £k. IIRC it sold for slightly less than this 12 months ago.

However it's a strange world and people do strange things

[bryce]

I still maintain this car is for a collector and he'll want the purest version. He won't give a damn about air con when it's sitting in a bubble - I sure as hell don't with the mileage and usage my car gets.