Clutch Slur and in at Elms

[cps]

Hello,
bit of advise and help needed. So my CSL is in at Elms. I have a warranty. I have clutch slur. We did a road test. They have updated software which I paid for. Clutch slur still present.

They have said that I need to pay for them to drop the gear box down ( £645) and if it need a new clutch pay etc. Fair if I have worn parts, but I'm just a bit concerned this might not fix the slur, and where this might end a paid " guessing. I've read the warranty book about what is covered etc. I have read the post from NZm3 on the GT1, although when I mentioned this they said "hard to interpret clutch where from readouts.

Does this seem reasonable to pay for the box drop and should I ask anything specific in proceeding in your experienced group view.

Service has been very pleasant so far there, nice courtesy car etc

thanks

Chris

[cantfind1]

Gearbox will need to be dropped, may as well change clutch while you are there.

Replace parts 1,2 and 3 in this diagram. Its what the clutch release bearing slides on, it becomes scored and rough and the bearing no longer slides smoothly leading to the clutch dragging or slurring...

This part should be replaced each time the clutch is replaced!

Make sure to replace the bearing as well, should come with the new clutch kit.

Then follow NZ's description. On resetting clutch values/ curve etc.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...19&hg=23&fg=15

Simples

[cps]

Originally Posted by cantfind1

Gearbox will need to be dropped, may as well change clutch while you are there.

Replace parts 1,2 and 3 in this diagram. Its what the clutch release bearing slides on, it becomes scored and rough and the bearing no longer slides smoothly leading to the clutch dragging or slurring...

This part should be replaced each time the clutch is replaced!

Make sure to replace the bearing as well, should come with the new clutch kit.

Then follow NZ's description. On resetting clutch values/ curve etc.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...19&hg=23&fg=15

Simples

So quick update, thanks to all for advise, Elms have re-built the clutch with replacement parts and parts all under warranty. phew..

unfortunately during the process they have found a subframe crack and mine is past the period of free replacement. So I guess now I need to start a new thread called, has anyone used Redish Automotive for a crack fix? Elms are going to get me a quote on the floor, so i'll see what that comes in at and weigh up the pro's and cons. all part of not driving a boring car and having something interesting.

[estoril]

My boot floor is being repaired right now by Munich Legends (at their cost) using the Redish kit. I did try and convince BMW to do the repair but they were unwilling in spite of a couple of emails to Graeme Grieve directly.

They charge something in the region of £4K for the repair, an independent such as Redish or Simpson will charge in the region of £1500-£2K and from what I have learned they are much better than the BMW repairs as BMW do no strengthening of the boot floor, they simply replace it and inject the resin (in one side only). There have been cases of BMW repaired cars failing a second time...

BTW - I have been told that it is not a good idea to have the resin injected into the floor void as a preventative measure as once done repair is difficult (I was going to say impossible but I doubt that is true), but BMW will not do a repair if the resin has been injected since the resin is flammable....

[cps]

Originally Posted by estoril

My boot floor is being repaired right now by Munich Legends (at their cost) using the Redish kit. I did try and convince BMW to do the repair but they were unwilling in spite of a couple of emails to Graeme Grieve directly.

They charge something in the region of £4K for the repair, an independent such as Redish or Simpson will charge in the region of £1500-£2K and from what I have learned they are much better than the BMW repairs as BMW do no strengthening of the boot floor, they simply replace it and inject the resin (in one side only). There have been cases of BMW repaired cars failing a second time...

BTW - I have been told that it is not a good idea to have the resin injected into the floor void as a preventative measure as once done repair is difficult (I was going to say impossible but I doubt that is true), but BMW will not do a repair if the resin has been injected since the resin is flammable....

Oh interesting,

So i was watching the Redish videos last night, I understand the principles and issues with spot weld locations. I have some questions about the bush designs, i'm not sure if a threaded pin with an external circular fixing screws in the boot floor and then the bush goes on that? I was wondering why BMW shaped the bushes the way they did? must have been some reason? and does the flat powerflex bush really give even contact and pressure distribution? I also wondered why you couldn't weld a tube between the boot floor void linking the upper and lower panels?

i was hoping for a 1.5k option more than 4k and replacing the whole boot floor without clamping the whole body in a production jig and then distressing with heat didn't appeal, but i'm probably overthinking it..

BTW how did Munich Legends end up doing your repair for free? guessing this is not a CSL charity service they offer? or can i sign up for that?

[estoril]

Originally Posted by cps

BTW how did Munich Legends end up doing your repair for free? guessing this is not a CSL charity service they offer? or can i sign up for that?

I bought the car from them and the issue was noted prior to purchase....you could sell them your car and buy it back I guess

[glendog74]

Originally Posted by estoril

BMW do no strengthening of the boot floor, they simply replace it and inject the resin (in one side only). There have been cases of BMW repaired cars failing a second time...

Not true. I'm sure its on a car by car basis and the severity of cracking as to how much work is put in by the BMW repairer.

My car received a complete new boot floor and has the welding marks/joint sealer and new paint under the boot carpet to show for it. Specialist Cars of Hitchin completed my repair work and replaced all suspension bushes in the process too

[Rick H]

Yep, mine had a full floor too . . .

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[estoril]

I visited Specialist cars for an inspection about 2 weeks ago and mine was confirmed as cracked although very very early stages, their answer was to replace the whole boot floor, I do not believe they have any other answer as they do not have repair parts, if this isn't the case then I stand corrected but it would have been strange for them to replace the whole floor on my car IF they had strengthening plates available.

Originally Posted by glendog74

Not true. I'm sure its on a car by car basis and the severity of cracking as to how much work is put in by the BMW repairer.

My car received a complete new boot floor and has the welding marks/joint sealer and new paint under the boot carpet to show for it. Specialist Cars of Hitchin completed my repair work and replaced all suspension bushes in the process too

[cslsuperfan]

Originally Posted by glendog74

Not true. I'm sure its on a car by car basis and the severity of cracking as to how much work is put in by the BMW repairer.

My car received a complete new boot floor and has the welding marks/joint sealer and new paint under the boot carpet to show for it.

As did mine Rob