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Old 22-03-2013, 11:16 AM   #1
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Default Trailing arm bush limiter kit -v- poly bush

What are the pros and cons of each?

I've got a set of the Turner ones (not fitted), but do they work as well as actually replacing the OE bushes with Powerflex items.

Does replacing the OE bushes with poly items actually transfer a noticeable amount of NVH into the car?

I'm actually after first hand experience, not anecdotal .
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Old 22-03-2013, 06:12 PM   #2
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Also interested as mine is in soon for the boot floor so will replace while its out.
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Old 22-03-2013, 06:30 PM   #3
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Just done a search on this, unless the car is tracked it doesn't seem worth it.
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Old 22-03-2013, 06:34 PM   #4
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I'm a believe in either the limiter kit and a new OEM bush or a bearing race. There is nothing actually wrong with the handling on new OEM bush with limiters IMO and the shims help them last longer and prevent toe changes which are the only 2 gripes with the standard bushing.

If under warranty then I think OEM bush plus limiter is more acceptable to BMW than after market parts (eg for subframe mounting repairs), Shim will know more on that angle though I'd say.

I ran bearing races on the road and they were fine until they needed refreshing at which point they got noisy.

Never used poly bushes on RTAB but have seen photos of some that lasted a matter of weeks before tearing.
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Old 22-03-2013, 06:37 PM   #5
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Thanks Nath .
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Old 23-03-2013, 03:11 PM   #6
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I've used limiter kit with OEM bushes for the last 5 years and 50k miles. Road and TD's. Haven't changed a bush since.
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I've used limiter kit with OEM bushes for the last 5 years and 50k miles. Road and TD's. Haven't changed a bush since.

same here but 75k miles

cant see what god poly will do apart from transfering stress to the body and making warranty claim harder on subframe fails, and also making ride much harsher.

might do it if i had a cage
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Old 24-03-2013, 01:07 PM   #8
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If under warranty then I think OEM bush plus limiter is more acceptable to BMW than after market parts (eg for subframe mounting repairs), Shim will know more on that angle though I'd say.
As Nathan said, I have the limiting kit with OEM bushing in my car, which has just had the subframe repair done at Elms in the past two weeks, I didn't have any trouble with them for having the kit installed.
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Old 24-03-2013, 01:53 PM   #9
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As Nathan said, I have the limiting kit with OEM bushing in my car, which has just had the subframe repair done at Elms in the past two weeks, I didn't have any trouble with them for having the kit installed.
That's good to know, I also have the kit fitted but mine needs the rear shocks replacing, one appears to have developed a slight leak. Subframe no problems, touch wood
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Old 25-03-2013, 04:25 PM   #10
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Mike,

when I had my rear subframe replaced I got BMW to fit the RTA bushes and the 4 subframe mounts in Power Flex (I supplied them) and I haven't really noticed any extra vibration etc...


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