CSL Sub-frame cracks

hoshy · 27-06-2012, 07:26 AM

Hi guys,

Some of you may remember, I'm relatively new to the CSL world. And I was not cimpletely in love with my CSL in the beginning...

This is changing - with every mountain pass I thrash over :D

Anyway - I had a clunking that turned out to be diff output shafts and whilst at a seemingly good M dealer in Regensburg (birthplace of my CSL I believe!) I asked about the subframe epoxy repair.

The TIS doc he referenced says this was only a problem on pre-2000 E46 cars and thus I don't need it. I have asked him to investigate if it's worth doing on the CSL - just to be sure.

Here is a doc that supports his claims: http://www.simracing.no/e46fanatics/...bframe_tis.pdf

What do you guys think - any experiences with this?

Cheers

azrael · 27-06-2012, 08:47 AM

I believe that doc has been superseded and yes it is worth having your car checked

s.mac · 27-06-2012, 07:43 PM

Mines just been repaired under warranty so I would say he is incorrect

Trawler · 27-06-2012, 08:34 PM

That article brings back memories. Thought at the time why would a learner driver cause problems.

**shimmy** · 27-06-2012, 10:12 PM

Mine was fixed in 2009

Trawler · 27-06-2012, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy

Mine was fixed in 2009

Was that the time you were learning to drive.

**shimmy** · 27-06-2012, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trawler

Was that the time you were learning to drive.

No, that was 2010

hoshy · 28-06-2012, 10:37 AM

Here was the response from a BMW dealer in Germany:

"I talk about the auxiliary frame with the workshop master and he says that the repair ( Expoid? ) is not good for this car. The M3 have been a better auxiliary frame and with the Expoid is it maybe to hard."

They seem to not want to do the repair, even if I pay. I assume because, at least from their info, it's not necessary.

I used to get pissed off with my E36 M3 Evo for eating rear top mounts but I'd rather have that problem any day of the week! I could change them in 30 minutes flat... once even on a Ferry between between boarding and departure

**shimmy** · 28-06-2012, 10:51 AM

if you are on about cracks in thr body floor under the rear subframe then they are lying to you

there is a bmw TIS and sucessful US law suit and id guess they have fixed 100s

hoshy · 28-06-2012, 11:18 AM

Well, yes - but they're saying it's only for pre-2000 cars - and the only TIS document I found supports this - where is the updated version?

27-06-2012, 07:26 AM	#1
hoshy S3 - On the open road Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 80 Casino cash: $833	CSL Sub-frame cracks Hi guys, Some of you may remember, I'm relatively new to the CSL world. And I was not cimpletely in love with my CSL in the beginning... This is changing - with every mountain pass I thrash over :D Anyway - I had a clunking that turned out to be diff output shafts and whilst at a seemingly good M dealer in Regensburg (birthplace of my CSL I believe!) I asked about the subframe epoxy repair. The TIS doc he referenced says this was only a problem on pre-2000 E46 cars and thus I don't need it. I have asked him to investigate if it's worth doing on the CSL - just to be sure. Here is a doc that supports his claims: http://www.simracing.no/e46fanatics/...bframe_tis.pdf What do you guys think - any experiences with this? Cheers

27-06-2012, 08:47 AM	#2
azrael S5, Sport On, DSC M-track Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Portsmouth/Reading Posts: 1,292 Casino cash: $9290	I believe that doc has been superseded and yes it is worth having your car checked __________________ Ashley Shaeffer BMW - Wooo

27-06-2012, 10:12 PM	#5
shimmy CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Uk Posts: 14,646 Casino cash: $43909	Mine was fixed in 2009 __________________ .

28-06-2012, 10:51 AM	#9
shimmy CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Uk Posts: 14,646 Casino cash: $43909	if you are on about cracks in thr body floor under the rear subframe then they are lying to you there is a bmw TIS and sucessful US law suit and id guess they have fixed 100s __________________ .

27-06-2012, 07:43 PM	#3
s.mac CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,247 Casino cash: $15600	Mines just been repaired under warranty so I would say he is incorrect

27-06-2012, 08:34 PM	#4
Trawler Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,213 Casino cash: $25916	That article brings back memories. Thought at the time why would a learner driver cause problems.

28-06-2012, 10:37 AM	#8
hoshy S3 - On the open road Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 80 Casino cash: $833	Here was the response from a BMW dealer in Germany: "I talk about the auxiliary frame with the workshop master and he says that the repair ( Expoid? ) is not good for this car. The M3 have been a better auxiliary frame and with the Expoid is it maybe to hard." They seem to not want to do the repair, even if I pay. I assume because, at least from their info, it's not necessary. I used to get pissed off with my E36 M3 Evo for eating rear top mounts but I'd rather have that problem any day of the week! I could change them in 30 minutes flat... once even on a Ferry between between boarding and departure

28-06-2012, 11:18 AM	#10
hoshy S3 - On the open road Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 80 Casino cash: $833	Well, yes - but they're saying it's only for pre-2000 cars - and the only TIS document I found supports this - where is the updated version?