CSL 20th Anniversary 2023

[Mike R]

With this fast approaching, we have agreed dates with BMW Classic and these are 25-28 May 2023 (similar to the 10th Anniversary).

Be aware that we have a hotel available to the WhatsApp members (72 rooms) and if necessary an overspill hotel with a further 50 rooms.

If you are not in the CSL WhatsApp group and have a CSL and want to attend this, please contact me on +44 7771 912291

The program will consist of 2 days at the Nurburgring (BMWs HQ), a tour of Schirmer Motorsport, and 1.5 days in Munich for (schedule below) and a talk by the original CSL development engineers, as well as Friedbert Holtz and Horst Von Saurma.

UPDATE:
The Nurburgring Classic Race Event is taking place from Friday to Sunday (May 26th to 28th).

We have been offered the opportunity of the integration of our group on the Saturday and Sunday (May 27th and 28th) on the following basis:

- Special admission ticket: E45 instead of E54 per person for both days (food and beverage excluded)
- On both days you will be able to use the BMW showroom (for which we only have to cover the cleaning costs of around E600)
- The catering would come on top and would cost up to E25 per person per day

We have two parking lot options:
Option 1: Paddock parking E30 per day & per club member -> It's a super cool opportunity (mixing it with the race teams), but it is a 5 minute walk from their showroom
Option 2: Parking in the towers parking lot

The following tracks will be exclusively available for us:
Nurburgring Nordschleife: Sunday 1-2pm = E7,868.28 (inc VAT) for the hire of the circuit - cost to be split between everyone (currently look at being around E135 - (but going down with each additional car). Please note that the minimum age for passengers is 18. Helmets are recommended but not obligatory (personal choice). They can be hired if required or bring yours with you if you so wish.

NB. the hour long Nordschliefe slot works out at a very reasonable amount even with just over half the 100 cars attending. A single lap on a public day at the weekend is usually E30 and if you start with an absolute full tank of fuel and aim for liesurely 10 minute BTG laps, you should comfortably be able to do 5 laps in that time (and don't forget, we're not sharing the circuit with anyone else). If you are a 'ring regular, then you will know that if you're doing sub 8s, you'll get fuel surge towards the end of the 4th lap and will need to refuel (which would be difficult to do and get back to the circuit in time for more laps, but the pace you want to drive at is up to you).

I'm personally not too bothered about the Grand Prix circuit, as I think that 30 minutes is too short and the cost too high for that circuit, but would still do it if other people want to do both.

If people wish to take up this offer, it will mean that the Welt event would need to take place on Thursday 25th May, where the Friday 26th would need to be allocated for the drive from Munich to the Nordshcleife (which is around 6 hours).

Getting to Munich for me is an 800 mile journey, so although I have done 1000 miles before in one day, it's not something I'd recommend, so I will personally be leaving Norfolk on Tuesday 23rd and having an over-nighter somewhere half-way, leaving a leisurely 400 mile drive each day. Obviously the return trip from the Nurburgring can easily be done in a day.

So the proposed schedule of events is:
Thursday 25th May BMW Factory Tour, BMW Group Classic Tour, BMW Museum AND BMW Welt. Please note that this may have to spill over into Friday morning to do everything. Which is not an issue for getting to the Nurburgring, providing people leave at lunch time (Please note that Friedbert Holtz has now confirmed that he will only be available for the Munich event).
Saturday 27th May BMW showroom / Classic Nurburgring Race weekend
Sunday 28th May BMW showroom / Classic Nurburgring Race weekend / 1 hour track driving (1-2pm)
Monday 29th May Schirmer / Nurburgring Museum tour (if the consensus is that people want to travel back home on the Monday, then we could try to move these to late afternoon on the Saturday or Sunday).

I appreciate that this is not going to be suitable for everyone, but given the amount of time and effort that has gone into the planning and organisation of this, I hope that it will not dissuade people from attending at least one of the events. So if people could DM me DIRECTLY to advise what aspect they will be attending, I can start a list of who is doing what. PLEASE DO NOT CLUTTER UP THE ANNIVERSARY WHATS-APP GROUP WITH THIS, PLEASE, PLEASE DM ME DIRECTLY.

Any other questions, please either DM me or post below.

To whet your appetite the pictures and video of the 10th Anniversary can be viewed here:
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=38

The dates have now been confirmed, so now the list begins:
1. Mike Rainbird + 1 (all events)
2. Sean Roberson + 1 (all events)
3. Dave Leigh + 1 (all events)
4. Benjamin Pfitzner (CSL 1) (all events)
5. Benjamin Pfitzner (CSL 2) (spare car)
6. Alex Antunes + 1 (all events)
7. Ashley Evans + 1 (all events)
8. Jack Evans + 1 (all events)
9. John Brookes + 1 (all events)
10. Mike Essmann + 1 (all events)
11. Harry Gill + 1 (all events)
12. Pete Flowers + 1 (all events)
13. Steve Fitzpatrick + 1 (all events)
14. Alex Katsioulis + 1 (all events)
15. Trevor Warwick + 1 (all events)
16. Ian A + 1 (all events)
17. Patrick Michaels + 1 (all events)
18. Spencer Howie + 1 (all events)
19. Nigel Lees + 1 (all events)
20. Adam Roshdy + 1 (all events)
21. Vikesh Patel + 1 (all events)
22. Andy Wrigley + 1 (Nurburgring only)
23. Mike Holt + 1 (Munich only)
24. Mike N + 1 (all events)
25. Rob M + 1 (all events)
26. Raj Chauhan + 1 (all events)
27. Elvis Didovic + 3 (Munich only)
28. Kristian Spreckley + 1 (all events)
29. Andy Scott + 1 (all events)
30. Simon Hudson + 1 (all events)
31. Philip Reipert + 1 (Nurburgring only)
32. Andres Diaz + 2 (all events)
33. 0%Fett (S R) + 3 (Munich only)
34. Maxime Firmenich + 1 (Nurburgring only)
35. Amir Hashmi + 1 (all events)
36. Mick Janssen + 1 (Nurburgring only)
37. Mathieu Laperrelle (Nurburgring only)
38. Ben Truslove + 1 (Nurburgring only)
39. Gavin Renshaw + 1 (all events)
40. George Smith + 1 (all events)
41. Niall O'Sullivan + 2 (all events)
42. John Tetik + 1 (Munich only)
43. Silas Benaiah + 1 (all events)
44. Sven Negrassus (Munich only)
45. Joseph Kotrie-Monson + 1 (all events)
46. Sanjay Patel + 1 (all events)
47. John Hegarty + 3 (all events)
48. Guy De Clercq + 1 (all events)
49. Joeseph Dunn + 1 (all events)
50. Davide Castaldi + 1 (Nurburgring only)
51. Elisas Kristoffer + 1 (all events)
52. Bruno Garcia + 1 (Nurburgring only - just Sunday)
53. Henrik Levander + 1 (Munich only)
54. Barry Hughes + 2 (all events)
55. Manuael Kabel + 1 (all events)
56. John Lambert + 1 (all events)
57. Jibby Abbas + 1 (Munich only)
58. Lee Shepherd + 1 (all events)
59. Arnaud Guichoux + 1 (all events)
60. Jean-Yves Goose + 1 (Nurburgring only)
61. Emmanuael Barros + 1 (all events)
62. Alexander Ceccon + 1 (Munich only)
63. Marek Machala + 1 (Currently Munich only - Nurburgring T.b.c.)
64. Attila Danko + 1 (all events)
65. Peter Griffin + 1 (all vents)
66. Can Eyilik + 1 (Munich only)
67. Norman Schultz + 1 (Nurburgring only)
68. Aydonat Atasever + 1 (Munich only)
69. Michael Pilhak + 1 (Munich only)
70. Dougie Cowan + 1 (all events)
71. Maris Saulits + 1 (all events)
72. Andrew Wolton + 1 (all events)
73. Nirojan Poovendran + 1 (No car - flying in (SA)) - all events - needs passenger ride around the Nurburgring with brother!
74. Endry Willems (Nurburgring - Saturday only)
75. Graham T (all events)
76. Maxime Durand + 2 (all events)
77. Haziz B + 1 (Munich only)
78. Neill Hughes + 1 (Munich only)
79. Guus Kleine Toereers + 1 (Munich only)
80. Serkan Yildiz + 1 (Munich only)
81. Simon Alberto + 1 (all events)
82. Simon Williams + 1 (Munich only)
83. Darragh Doyle + 1 (all events in-car with John Hegarty)
84. Ong Seng Gee + 1 (all events)
85. Rhiyadh Khamis (all events)
86. Adem Conlon + 1 (Nurburgring only)
87. Raphael Fuhrimann + 1 (Munich only)
88. Lukasz Czaja + 1 (all events)
89. Peter Sykora (Munich only)
90. James Chambers + 1 (Nurburgring only)
91. Julian Lechner + 1 (all events)
92. Richard Hawken + 1 (all events)
93. Rudolf Radic + 1 (Munich only)

Things to remember:
1. Driving licence
2. Proof of insurance
3. Warning triangle (should be in the car, as CSL comes with these)
4. First aid kit (should be in the car, as CSL comes with these)
5. Hi-vis vests for each occupant
6. For the people coming from the UK, you now need to display a UK sticker or number plates, GB is no longer accepted and will earn you a fine.
7. German Vignette for the Munich part if your hotel is located in the green zone - ?14.75 from here: www.vignetteshop.co.uk - just requires a scan of your V5 and takes 1 week to come through.
8. For the UK people, if you still have a paper license, upgrade this to a photo one, or apply for an International one.
9. V5 registration document
10. Passport (obvs)

Factory tour times:
1. Wednesday 24th May 15:45 to 17:45 24 people
2. Thursday 25th May 12:00 to 14:00 24 people
3. Thursday 25th May 13:45 to 15:45 24 people
4. Thursday 25th May 15:45 to 17:45 24 people
5. Thursday 25th May 16:00 to 18:00 24 people
6. Friday 26th May 12:00 to 14:00 24 people

Nurburgring aspect:
The track-time on the Nordschleife will be on Sunday the 28.05.23 from 1.00 PM to 2.00 PM.

On Sunday morning there will be a briefing for the drivers (and it is imperative that any intended co-drivers attend this as well) where everyone will be advised about the Nordschleife and how the deal with this very special race-track. The Briefing will be done by their race-Director Werner Aichinger and will last around 30 minutes.

They are suggesting that people should wear helmets. However, this is not obligatory but voluntary. They are assuming that every driver knows how to assess his abilities.
Each driver and co-driver must sign the usual track liability waiver stating that they drive the circuit at his own risk. This is imperative.

After signing, each participant will receive a wristband. Without a wristband, the person concerned will not be allowed onto the racetrack.

They will lead the participants on Sunday at about 12.00 o'clock with an escort vehicle to the Nordschleife and set it up there (so make sure you are with your car at 12.00), so that the track time starts promptly at 1.00 PM.

The entrance fee per day (day ticket) is E25 instead of the normal E32. The two-day ticket (Saturday and Sunday) is reduced E45 instead of E54 per person.

[Mike R]

This evening I had a Teams meeting with Benjamin Voss from BMW Classic regarding the 20th Anniversary and it?s looking amazingly positive. He has agreed to practically everything requested (including the Nurburgring visit). I just need to make sure in a follow up call that he understands we want to go on track��.

Dates should be locked in next week, but the last weekend in May is also looking the best for them (as per the poll carried out in the WhatsApp group chat).

He will be also contacting Horst Von Saurma for us, so that we can speak to the ?ring lapping legend about his infamous 7.50 lap.

Benjamin is also a huge fan of Friedbert Holtz (the author of the F = m * a book) and would love for him to be there, so I sent Friedbert an email this evening to ask if he wouldn?t mind (with Walter the photographer for the book) and he has agreed immediatley (he still has a huge passion for the CSL as well)����.

I also discussed at length with Benjamin the NLA parts and he suggested that we get a select few of us together to talk this over with the relevant person, as he didn?t feel it fair that we had 50+ owners screaming for the blood of the man responsible for discontinuing so many parts������.

As we have quite a few overseas owners that might want to attend the event, could they make themselves known so that we can perhaps hook everyone up with a car to go in?

It would be great to have as many owners in attendance as possible, so please don?t feel you cannot come without your cars.

In addition, if people could add to the list below of what cars they would like to see, so Benjamin can arrange this:
X5 LM
M3 GTR
M3 CSL V8 prototype
M2 CSL prototype
E34 Touring with Mclaren F1 engine

If anyone has any suggestions of what else they would like to see / happen, please post here����.

[alexk]

Mike thank you so much.

About additional cars, it would be great if they could add
- E9 CSL race car
- McLaren F1 GTR
- E36 M3 GTR
- E46 320si WTCC (with the special suspension...)

One more thing I thought of is if they could have some information / short presentation on what they had to do in the factory in Munich to adjust the production line for the CSL builds.
It must have been disruptive to make a car so different.

[Leo]

Originally Posted by alexk

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One more thing I thought of is if they could have some information / short presentation on what they had to do in the factory in Munich to adjust the production line for the CSL builds.
It must have been disruptive to make a car so different.

The CSL was built in the Regensburg plant along with the M3 and standard E46 models.

@Mike : I'm in Germany and would also like to attend with a friend, however I will have to check that I don't have a schedule conflict first.

[mick csl]

[quote=Mike R;206800]With this fast approaching, we are already in talks with BMW Classic and it looks likely to be towards the end of May 2023 (similar to the 10th Anniversary).

If you are not in the CSL WhatsApp group and have a CSL and want to attend this, please contact me on 07771 912291

To whet your appetite the pictures and video of the 10th Anniversary can be viewed here:
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=38

The dates have now been confirmed, so now the list begins - lets try and beat 50 cars .
1. Mike Rainbird + 1
2. Sean Roberson + 1
3. Dave Leigh + 1
4. Benjamin Pfitzner (CSL 1)
5. Benjamin Pfitzner (CSL 2)
6. Alex Antunes + 1
7. Ashley Evans + 1
8. Jack Evans + 1
9. John Brookes + 1
10. Imran Arshad + 1
11. Mike Essmann + 1
12. Harry Gill + 1
13. Pete Flowers + 1
14. Jason Quirke + 1
15. Steve Fitzpatrick + 1
16. Alex Katsioulis + 1
17. Alex Dunnet + 1
18. Trevor Warwick + 1
19. Oliver Smith + 1
20. Ian Pennant + 1
21. Patrick Michaels + 1
22. Spencer Howie + 1
23. Nigel Lees + 1
24. Adam Roshdy + 1
25. Vikesh Patel + 1
26. Andy Wrigley + 1
27. Mike Holt + 1
28. Shane Kukaswadia + 1
29. Mike Nagle + 1
30. Rob Mugglestone + 1
31. Raj Chauhan + 1
32. Elvis Didovic + 3
33. Kristian Spreckley + 1
34. Andy Scott + 1
35. Simon Hudson + 1
36. Philip Reipert + 1
37. Andres Diaz + 2
38. 0%Fett (S R) + 3
39. Maxime Firmenich + 1
40. Stephane Bievez + 1
41. Amir Hashmi + 1
42. Peter Clark + 1
43. Mick csl +1

[sailorbaz]

1. Mike Rainbird + 1
2. Sean Roberson + 1
3. Dave Leigh + 1
4. Benjamin Pfitzner (CSL 1)
5. Benjamin Pfitzner (CSL 2)
6. Alex Antunes + 1
7. Ashley Evans + 1
8. Jack Evans + 1
9. John Brookes + 1
10. Imran Arshad + 1
11. Mike Essmann + 1
12. Harry Gill + 1
13. Pete Flowers + 1
14. Jason Quirke + 1
15. Steve Fitzpatrick + 1
16. Alex Katsioulis + 1
17. Alex Dunnet + 1
18. Trevor Warwick + 1
19. Oliver Smith + 1
20. Ian Pennant + 1
21. Patrick Michaels + 1
22. Spencer Howie + 1
23. Nigel Lees + 1
24. Adam Roshdy + 1
25. Vikesh Patel + 1
26. Andy Wrigley + 1
27. Mike Holt + 1
28. Shane Kukaswadia + 1
29. Mike Nagle + 1
30. Rob Mugglestone + 1
31. Raj Chauhan + 1
32. Elvis Didovic + 3
33. Kristian Spreckley + 1
34. Andy Scott + 1
35. Simon Hudson + 1
36. Philip Reipert + 1
37. Andres Diaz + 2
38. 0%Fett (S R) + 3
39. Maxime Firmenich + 1
40. Stephane Bievez + 1
41. Amir Hashmi + 1
42. Peter Clark + 1
43. Mick csl +1
44. Barry Hughes +2

[Manum3]

Originally Posted by Mike R

With this fast approaching, we have agreed dates with BMW Classic and these are 26-28 May 2023 (similar to the 10th Anniversary).

Be aware that we have a hotel available to the WhatsApp members (72 rooms) and if necessary an overspill hotel with a further 50 rooms.

If you are not in the CSL WhatsApp group and have a CSL and want to attend this, please contact me on +44 7771 912291

To whet your appetite the pictures and video of the 10th Anniversary can be viewed here:
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=38

The dates have now been confirmed, so now the list begins - lets try and beat 50 cars .
1. Mike Rainbird + 1
2. Sean Roberson + 1
3. Dave Leigh + 1
4. Benjamin Pfitzner (CSL 1)
5. Benjamin Pfitzner (CSL 2) - Tom
6. Alex Antunes + 1
7. Ashley Evans + 1
8. Jack Evans + 1
9. John Brookes + 1
10. Imran Arshad + 1
11. Mike Essmann + 1
12. Harry Gill + 1
13. Pete Flowers + 1
14. Jason Quirke + 1
15. Steve Fitzpatrick + 1
16. Alex Katsioulis + 1
17. Alex Dunnet + 1
18. Trevor Warwick + 1
19. Oliver Smith + 1
20. Ian Pennant + 1
21. Patrick Michaels + 1
22. Spencer Howie + 1
23. Nigel Lees + 1
24. Adam Roshdy + 1
25. Vikesh Patel + 1
26. Andy Wrigley + 1
27. Mike Holt + 1
28. Shane Kukaswadia + 1
29. Mike Nagle + 1
30. Rob Mugglestone + 1
31. Raj Chauhan + 1
32. Elvis Didovic + 3
33. Kristian Spreckley + 1
34. Andy Scott + 1
35. Simon Hudson + 1
36. Philip Reipert + 1
37. Andres Diaz + 2 (No car USA)
38. 0%Fett (S R) + 3
39. Maxime Firmenich + 1
40. Stephane Bievez + 1
41. Amir Hashmi + 1
42. Peter Clark + 1
43. Mick Janssen + 1
44. Mathieu Laperrelle
45. Ben Truslove + 1
46. Chris Cook + 1 (possibly 3)
47. Geoff Ryall + 1 (Provisional)
48. Gavin Renshaw + 1
49. George Smith + 1
50. Niall O'Sullivan + 2
51. John Tetik + 1
52. Darren Iles + 1
53. Silas Benaiah + 1
54. Sven Negrassus
55. Joseph Kotrie-Monson + 1
56. Sanjay Patel + 1
57. Mark Hill + 1
58. Lesa Simons + 1
59. John Hegarty + 1
60. Jean-Luc Ciambelli + 1
61. Chris Knight + 1
62. Guy De Clercq + 1
63. Joeseph Dunn + 1
64. Davide Capaldi + 1
65. Elias Kristoffer + 1
66. Bruno Garcia + 1
67. Henrik Levander + 1
68. Tant Cooper
69. Hussain Seedat (No car - SA)
70. Barry Hughes + 2

71. Manuel Kabel + 1 Person

[pinkpanther008]

The dates have now been confirmed, so now the list begins - lets try and beat 50 cars .
1. Mike Rainbird + 1
2. Sean Roberson + 1
3. Dave Leigh + 1
4. Benjamin Pfitzner (CSL 1)
5. Benjamin Pfitzner (CSL 2) - Tom
6. Alex Antunes + 1
7. Ashley Evans + 1
8. Jack Evans + 1
9. John Brookes + 1
10. Imran Arshad + 1
11. Mike Essmann + 1
12. Harry Gill + 1
13. Pete Flowers + 1
14. Jason Quirke + 1
15. Steve Fitzpatrick + 1
16. Alex Katsioulis + 1
17. Alex Dunnet + 1
18. Trevor Warwick + 1
19. Oliver Smith + 1
20. Ian Pennant + 1
21. Patrick Michaels + 1
22. Spencer Howie + 1
23. Nigel Lees + 1
24. Adam Roshdy + 1
25. Vikesh Patel + 1
26. Andy Wrigley + 1
27. Mike Holt + 1
28. Shane Kukaswadia + 1
29. Mike Nagle + 1
30. Rob Mugglestone + 1
31. Raj Chauhan + 1
32. Elvis Didovic + 3
33. Kristian Spreckley + 1
34. Andy Scott + 1
35. Simon Hudson + 1
36. Philip Reipert + 1
37. Andres Diaz + 2 (No car USA)
38. 0%Fett (S R) + 3
39. Maxime Firmenich + 1
40. Stephane Bievez + 1
41. Amir Hashmi + 1
42. Peter Clark + 1
43. Mick Janssen + 1
44. Mathieu Laperrelle
45. Ben Truslove + 1
46. Chris Cook + 1 (possibly 3)
47. Geoff Ryall + 1 (Provisional)
48. Gavin Renshaw + 1
49. George Smith + 1
50. Niall O'Sullivan + 2
51. John Tetik + 1
52. Darren Iles + 1
53. Silas Benaiah + 1
54. Sven Negrassus
55. Joseph Kotrie-Monson + 1
56. Sanjay Patel + 1
57. Mark Hill + 1
58. Lesa Simons + 1
59. John Hegarty + 1
60. Jean-Luc Ciambelli + 1
61. Chris Knight + 1
62. Guy De Clercq + 1
63. Joeseph Dunn + 1
64. Davide Capaldi + 1
65. Elias Kristoffer + 1
66. Bruno Garcia + 1
67. Henrik Levander + 1
68. Tant Cooper
69. Hussain Seedat (No car - SA)
70. Barry Hughes + 2
71. Manuel Kabel + 1 Person
72: Andy Wolton CSL + 1 passenger

[rstoughy]

Can this page be kept updated please with any developments on the trip / timings etc?

Cheers

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by rstoughy

Can this page be kept updated please with any developments on the trip / timings etc?

Cheers

It is being updated as and when .