Clutch not engaging while driving.

bryce · 02-03-2009, 10:28 AM

Travelling to MOT today and noticed the clutch wasnt engaging properly.

I was travelling at about 60mph, 6th gear, 1800rpm. Barely using throttle as its kinda down hill. When I applied some throttle the revs were going up then crashing back down whent he clutch came in, but then it'd bump out again. Tried again in 5th (so revs were higher) and still got the same.

Dealers gonna plug her in. Thinks it could be a solonoid.

Anyone had this before?

bryce · 02-03-2009, 03:19 PM

Just back from dealers.

Plug it in - no faults
Check SMG pump + pressures - all OK

Only suggestion they had was that maybe Ive upset the car by running odd wheels - CSLs on front, M5 on rear - the M5 wheels stand almost 2" taller than the CSL rears.

Gonna swap back now, but the car wasnt doing its trick on the way home anyway.

Any idea lads? Warranty is out tomorrow!!

SMD · 02-03-2009, 03:22 PM

Pay for the warranty today!

SpineOnABap · 02-03-2009, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryce86

Only suggestion they had was that maybe Ive upset the car by running odd wheels - CSLs on front, M5 on rear - the M5 wheels stand almost 2" taller than the CSL rears.

Interesting. Did you perform the SMG -> tyre recalibration? Like you should when you change tyres (see the handbook section on changing tyres).
If you don't it can throw the SMG into a bit of a wobbly.

It's what's often referred to as the 'SMG reset' (car into N or 0 at 40mph, pull & hold both paddles for about 4 or 5 seconds then back into gear).

bryce · 02-03-2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpineOnABap

Interesting. Did you perform the SMG -> tyre recalibration? Like you should when you change tyres (see the handbook section on changing tyres).
If you don't it can throw the SMG into a bit of a wobbly.

It's what's often referred to as the 'SMG reset' (car into N or 0 at 40mph, pull & hold both paddles for about 4 or 5 seconds then back into gear).

Ahhh, I have read that before but never paid any heed to it.

The SMG did seem to be having a wobbly as you say. Dipping the clutch while coasting at 50/60mph, then riding it back in.

Im back on standard wheels now again, but I doubt I'll can get it to do it again anyway.

Thanks for that Elliot.

(any further suggestions are still welcome!)

SpineOnABap · 02-03-2009, 04:45 PM

It does sound like a symptom of not doing that procedure. It tends not to matter if there's not much of a change, but if it's significant then problems occur. I had something similar when I temporarily shifted from 265 to 255 on the rear (without doing the reset). Once I'd done the reset it was ok.

It's kinda like the tyre pressure system in that it needs recalibrating when the rolling circumference changes.

bryce · 02-03-2009, 04:51 PM

Yeah it makes sense I suppose. The rears are significantly taller (2"), so it'd make sense that the car would get confused cos front and rear axles would be reading different speeds.

bryce · 01-04-2009, 12:25 PM

Well its at it again.

This time I noticed it in third when coasting a bit around 40mph. Dis-engages and re-engages the clutch willy nilly.

Also noticed that sometimes when I change to second, its as if I dip the clutch, then clunk it back in again.

Summits not right.

SMD · 01-04-2009, 12:35 PM

Seems a strange one this! Have you been back to BMW about it Bryce?

**Mark CSL** · 01-04-2009, 01:56 PM

Has your csl had the relay for the smg changed they were a recall i think all my CSLs have had them changed ?

Or it could be telling you stop driving like a Girl ( not you cslgirl LOL ) AND GIVE IT THE MESSAGE

02-03-2009, 10:28 AM	#1
bryce S5, Sport On, DSC M-track Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland (sw) Posts: 1,369 Casino cash: $2512	Clutch not engaging while driving. Travelling to MOT today and noticed the clutch wasnt engaging properly. I was travelling at about 60mph, 6th gear, 1800rpm. Barely using throttle as its kinda down hill. When I applied some throttle the revs were going up then crashing back down whent he clutch came in, but then it'd bump out again. Tried again in 5th (so revs were higher) and still got the same. Dealers gonna plug her in. Thinks it could be a solonoid. Anyone had this before?

01-04-2009, 01:56 PM	#10
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bryce S5, Sport On, DSC M-track Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland (sw) Posts: 1,369 Casino cash: $2512	Just back from dealers. Plug it in - no faults Check SMG pump + pressures - all OK Only suggestion they had was that maybe Ive upset the car by running odd wheels - CSLs on front, M5 on rear - the M5 wheels stand almost 2" taller than the CSL rears. Gonna swap back now, but the car wasnt doing its trick on the way home anyway. Any idea lads? Warranty is out tomorrow!!

02-03-2009, 03:22 PM	#3
SMD S6, Sport On, Traction Off Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Shropshire Posts: 1,505 Casino cash: $10726	Pay for the warranty today!

02-03-2009, 04:45 PM	#6
SpineOnABap S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: May 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 561 Casino cash: $5714	It does sound like a symptom of not doing that procedure. It tends not to matter if there's not much of a change, but if it's significant then problems occur. I had something similar when I temporarily shifted from 265 to 255 on the rear (without doing the reset). Once I'd done the reset it was ok. It's kinda like the tyre pressure system in that it needs recalibrating when the rolling circumference changes.

02-03-2009, 04:51 PM	#7
bryce S5, Sport On, DSC M-track Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland (sw) Posts: 1,369 Casino cash: $2512	Yeah it makes sense I suppose. The rears are significantly taller (2"), so it'd make sense that the car would get confused cos front and rear axles would be reading different speeds.

01-04-2009, 12:25 PM	#8
bryce S5, Sport On, DSC M-track Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland (sw) Posts: 1,369 Casino cash: $2512	Well its at it again. This time I noticed it in third when coasting a bit around 40mph. Dis-engages and re-engages the clutch willy nilly. Also noticed that sometimes when I change to second, its as if I dip the clutch, then clunk it back in again. Summits not right.

01-04-2009, 12:35 PM	#9
SMD S6, Sport On, Traction Off Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Shropshire Posts: 1,505 Casino cash: $10726	Seems a strange one this! Have you been back to BMW about it Bryce?