M3 gts

[mattCSLnut]

Originally Posted by SIEN

Love it, and even more so love the fact it is over £100k.

The owners who were considering purchasing an E46 CSL are not in the same target range as those that would consider 100k on a second car so hopefully won't effect all our residuals too much!

Great observation I feel much better now but still I wouldn't buy one even if I had £100K to spank on a NEW toy, which I don't, before U lot ask

[glendog74]

Interesting looking suspension set-up - looks very very similar to my KW Clubsport kit fitted to my car - even down to the yellow springs!



Wheels look familiar too...



Love the cage - you could still get a few bags in there too

[NZ_M3]

Originally Posted by The Gorilla

Hi,

Not sure about this ?

www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20933

You would want more power or less weight to be
in the CSL Ring lap times.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

I think BMW has already indicated sub 7:40s for this thing - so definitely quicker than the CSL.

Also I do think it's quite an achievement - they've actually taken out more weight on this thing (about 200kg vs the E92 M3) compared to the weight lost on the CSL to the E46 M3.

Love this thing!!

For once I think BMW's finally done the thing that everyone's been wanting them to do:
- proper brakes (fixed caliper monoblocks)
- fully adjustable suspensions (height, damper and rebound)
- full aero (personally opinion whether it's ugly or not)
- Titanium muffler
- roll bar (ala GT3 clubsport pack)
- fire extinguisher (for snob value)
- proper bucket seats and harness (ala GT3 clubsport)

It has all the right boxes ticked, yet the enthusiasts still complains - come on .. this is more of a club racer than the CSL ever was ... now imagine if only the CSL had came out without those things!! Wohooo

Originally Posted by glendog74

Interesting looking suspension set-up - looks very very similar to my KW Clubsport kit fitted to my car - even down to the yellow springs!

Wouldn't surprise me if it indeed was the KW clubsport kit or a modification of it. The specs sounds about the same.

[Hazy]

Hot M3 £100kish

Legendary 360 Challenge Stradale £85 to £90k

No contest IMO no way on gods earth will it be £75k better than the awesome CSL, let alone a Strad

[Ade]

Originally Posted by Hazy

Hot M3 £100kish

Legendary 360 Challenge Stradale £85 to £90k

No contest IMO no way on gods earth will it be £75k better than the awesome CSL, let alone a Strad

+1


Let's clarify...

M3 GTS = 3 x CSL ?

er, no.

[windy]

Originally Posted by NZ_M3

t has all the right boxes ticked, yet the enthusiasts still complains - come on .. this is more of a club racer than the CSL ever was ...

Very well put.

I'll bet the same things were being said when the CSL was first released... overpriced... not enough power... not enough weight loss...

Nicely hardcore IMHO, and if you're the sort of guy who runs a GT3 as a track-car (and whose mates probably do too) it makes a nice alternative

You all moaned when BM said they'd not do a new CSL... this is a CSL+

[alexk]

Originally Posted by windy

You all moaned when BM said they'd not do a new CSL... this is a CSL+

I am not sure that's a 'CSL'.
The brakes, suspension, cage and seats are obvious.
Does it has any special parts like the CSL ? Bumper, trunk etc etc etc ?
Maybe yes, maybe not. We don't know yet I guess.
It seems like it's something 'quick and dirty', when looking the front spoiler and rear spoiler. So, I am not sure (I could be wrong) if the car has everything, everything changed.
The rear spoiler is the ones we see in Fast n Furious and we are laughing.
The CSL cup cars have nicely made HUGE spoilers and they look awesome.

That doesn't make it a bad car.
I think it's a good car but it's clear that BMW targets in new customers, not the traditional BMW owner.

I only wish they had these brakes in our CSL, because I am having issues with the MOT of Switzerland.

[azrael]

If its a limited production run car, then the cost per car is bound to be higher when taking in r&d, safety compliance etc

[_Nathan_]

Originally Posted by Ade

+1


Let's clarify...

M3 GTS = 3 x CSL ?

er, no.

CSL = 6x e36 M3 er, no, silly argument - look at what it is up against new...

it is €30k cheaper than a GT3RS in Germany, let's see what the UK pricing works out like...

[_Nathan_]

Originally Posted by alexk

The CSL cup cars have nicely made HUGE spoilers and they look awesome.

but they don't have to pass type approval...

Credit to BMW, they'd made an extreme version of the M3, more extreme than the CSL, I think it is awesome, a 2 seater, caged M3 with adjustable suspension and decent brakes, less weight and a bigger engine

Wait until the tuners get hold of that 4.4 too - 500+ bhp