The definitive suspension thread

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by Mike R

You can say what you like - it won't change the fact that the Escort is faster than my CSL by quite some margin (but then I've spent ten years developing it around my driving style, so that is hardly surprising).

Are you saying that your escort is faster than your CSL OR you are faster in your escort than your CSL?

[shane@mbtech]

I've ran KW Clubsport for years with zero rebuild and they were still driving superb, I was only going to upgrade because I fitted the weld in cage and started running slicks. I was going to run the 2 way race.
Sadly i crashed the csl.

Standard clubsport spring rates, non coilover rear.

I ran the Nitron NTR sport 1 way as Shimmy and Barry did, I found them much the same. Shit. Ran 120-60 and they were poor, nearly killed me at oulton park. Dunc has it on video.


I have just bought the red M3 from Martin, which is running the 1K2 intrax, not driven it properly yet so I cant comment on its worth, but will do v soon.

The KW clubsport IMO with standard clubsport spring rates is a fantastic kit, I ran a set for over 3 years and the bodies still looked like new. Never put them on the dyno to check or sent for rebuild as they were still doing the business. The guy I sold them to is still running them with no servicing on them either.

I do want to go for the KW 2 way race at some point in the future, but funds v low at present so not happening anytime soon.

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by shimmy

Are you saying that your escort is faster than your CSL OR you are faster in your escort than your CSL?

Both .

[AlexGTT]

Originally Posted by shimmy

Are you saying that your escort is faster than your CSL OR you are faster in your escort than your CSL?

I believe this is were you need laptimes Shim?

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I run the KW setup supplied by Lawsy car has been a dream easy to adjust and reliable

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by AlexGTT

I believe this is were you need laptimes Shim?

The Cossie is more than a match for 750bhp GTRs and 430 Scuderias - CSLs aren't even in the same ball park .

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by Mike R

The Cossie is more than a match for 750bhp GTRs and 430 Scuderias - CSLs aren't even in the same ball park .

So how much faster is Cossie than CSL around Snett300 ?

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by shimmy

So how much faster is Cossie than CSL around Snett300 ?

No idea - why don't you come along in the summer and we can find out .

[glendog74]

Originally Posted by Mike R

Many thanks .

How do you find it on the road and do you have the KW standard spring rates or have you changed them?

I find it pretty supple on the road to be fair; so long as I have dialled a tad more softness into them (wet settings) when I leave the track.

Bizarrely, compared to my old BMW 123d daily hack my CSL feels positively smooth on road compared to the jarring ride of the 1 Series on run flat tyres!

My KW Clubsport has standard spring rates AFAIK and I have had no issues nor felt the need to have them serviced yet in over 4 years and approx 30k miles of use including many track days and around 200 laps at the Ring. I happily lived with my KW Clubsport suspension when the car was still my daily drive for a year or so too.

KW gets a thumbs up from me; especially factoring in the reasonable cost outlay of this kit compared to others

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by Mike R

No idea - why don't you come along in the summer and we can find out .

Okey dokey