Rear camber control arms adjustible

[Rick H]

Cheers GD & Shim . . . Shim, are you saying it's not worth going with the adjustable rear arms altogether or just avoid the hard bushes ?

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by Rick H

Cheers GD & Shim . . . Shim, are you saying it's not worth going with the adjustable rear arms altogether or just avoid the hard bushes ?

I wouldn't put solid bushes on road car. Race car with full cage yes. On a road car the transfer of stress will affect the shell, the body wil still flex and the ride is poor with no overall gain.

cSL rear arms are adjustable and very light so make sure you get light replacements if you need to do it but gain on track is minimal. I've tried rear camber at -2.0, -2.5 and -3.0 and tbh -2.0 when driving 95% is fine but when you get the car moving under you a but extra canber helps on grip and tyre wear. But is it worth it, prob not.

[Rick H]

Cheers again Shim.

The route I'm going is camber plates up front and potentially the rear control arms. Primarily at this stage, it's a tyre wear upgrade because I'm neither fast enough nor consistent enough for it to be for anything else. To go for a full shock swap out to Nitrons/Intrax etc would be an absolute waste of money for me right now.

Once these upgrades are in, my times are as low as and as consistent as they can be, maybe then I'll judge if aftermarket shocks are worth the expense against potential gains on track. That's for the future.

What I think I'll do then Shim is add the camber plates & Cups but save some money on the arms for now.

Thanks again.

[glendog74]

Originally Posted by Rick H

What I think I'll do then Shim is add the camber plates & Cups but save some money on the arms for now.

I'd recommend this route and was exactly what i did initially along with RTAB limiter kit

[Rick H]

Ordered.

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by Rick H

Ordered.

If you track loads, keeping standard suspension is a false economy. I must have wasted more than the cost of my Intrax in wear on Cups before I upgraded.

I would say seriously consider how much work on track you realistically going to do and if you can afford it and you are doing enough, don't waste money on rear camber arms, solid bushes or canber plates...... Go straight to Intrax ik2 or KW clubsport or similar

[Rick H]

Originally Posted by glendog74

I'd recommend this route and was exactly what i did initially along with RTAB limiter kit

Yip, the car already has the RTAB courtesy of a previous owner. I don't know what difference it makes as I haven't driven a car without the limiter kit.

Thanks again.

[Rick H]

Originally Posted by shimmy

If you track loads, keeping standard suspension is a false economy. I must have wasted more than the cost of my Intrax in wear on Cups before I upgraded.

I would say seriously consider how much work on track you realistically going to do and if you can afford it and you are doing enough, don't waste money on rear camber arms, solid bushes or canber plates...... Go straight to Intrax ik2 or KW clubsport or similar

Decisions, decisions!

Camber plates £400, probably worth £300 to sell on later. Aftermarket shocks £1000s + regular rebuilds - but also a reasonable residual value.

Track days - this year probably 3 or 4, road use not sure really. My thoughts change on it depending how much I've been driving the car to be honest, I'm not a huge fan of it as a road car unless I get the chance to actually drive it as intended.

Not buying the arms gives a couple of extra days on track

When I get sub 2 mins on Oulton consistently +/- .25 secs - justifying shocks is a lot easier !

[shimmy]

If you spend £1k on aftermarket dampers, you are wasting £1k on TAT. Don't make the car slower!

For serious improvements with value in mind order should be:

1. Cups
2. Brakes
3. Coilovers
4. Remove weight.

[Rick H]

Originally Posted by shimmy

If you spend £1k on aftermarket dampers, you are wasting £1k on TAT. Don't make the car slower!

For serious improvements with value in mind order should be:

1. Cups
2. Brakes
3. Coilovers
4. Remove weight.

£1000s not £1000

Cups & brakes done

It's personal choice I guess, but I put training before all those - that said it doesn't fall within "on a budget".