Bye bye CSL. Hello GT3 - Page 4

NZ_M3 · 13-04-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by terryb

NZ

I'll always have a soft spot for the CSL, and would love to experience a fully sorted, 400bhp CSL with cams, diff, suspension, brakes and remap all sorted. The induction noise is just awesome, but then the flat 6 scream of the GT3 is .......

To be honest I thought the CSL sounded better than the boxer 6 of any Porsche ... meh ...

The MK1 996 GT3 is pretty much on par performance wise with the CSL .. the MK2 is definitely a step up and the 997 GT3 (or the RS) is quite a bit more compared to the CSL.

Having said that however the CSL is much easier to go fast around a track vs a GT3 - put two equal drivers in either car and the GT3 would be quicker no doubt, but put an above average driver in the CSL and it'd be similar to the GT3.

Both are great cars - I would happily own either for sure - and a Manthey example is even more desirable for sure!!

Some pictures of the interior perhaps??

**Andyk** · 13-04-2009, 07:59 AM

I was never a fan of the mrk2 with those runny egg lights....mrk1 was much better looking. But then I saw this one.

**Andyk** · 13-04-2009, 09:08 AM

There's another Manthey GT3 for sale...he's looking for a CSL in exchange.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/984428.htm

Jeff · 13-04-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Andyk

There's another Manthey GT3 for sale...he's looking for a CSL in exchange.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/984428.htm

That's me, make me an offer

Jeff · 13-04-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NZ_M3

To be honest I thought the CSL sounded better than the boxer 6 of any Porsche ... meh ...

The MK1 996 GT3 is pretty much on par performance wise with the CSL .. the MK2 is definitely a step up and the 997 GT3 (or the RS) is quite a bit more compared to the CSL.

Having said that however the CSL is much easier to go fast around a track vs a GT3 - put two equal drivers in either car and the GT3 would be quicker no doubt, but put an above average driver in the CSL and it'd be similar to the GT3.

Both are great cars - I would happily own either for sure - and a Manthey example is even more desirable for sure!!

Some pictures of the interior perhaps??

As for the sound, the Manthey kit I think is a different world of flat 6 sound. Makes it pure race car. I'm biased of course but there is no comparison of the sound from a standard GT3 and the Manthey equiv. I think it's a bit like the CSL as the Manthey kit rids the car of the air box, the MAF and just has a cup filter straight onto the engine. Then the sounds from the full headers, cats and new boxes change it again. at 8000rpm you'd think you were in a proper race car.

As for performance I can't comment not having driven a CSL in anger like the GT3. To be honest I don't think there would be much in it apart from down a straight.

Housey · 13-04-2009, 12:10 PM

Where the GT3 scores is when you get it over 6000rpm at which point it has a spine tingling wail to it that sounds fantastic. The CSL sounds great at most speeds and from the outside coming towards you sounds epic....until it drives past and then is sounds shit with the tinny rasp that all E46 M's suffer from. When we did the rolling road event at Thorney Motorsport with MTorque I don't think anyone would argue that the GT3's sound fantastic at full chat on the rollers.

**glendog74** · 13-04-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff

As for performance I can't comment not having driven a CSL in anger like the GT3. To be honest I don't think there would be much in it apart from down a straight.

GT3 just edges away on the straights! I was all over a yellow Mk.1 on braking and in the corners on Saturday but he wouldn't budge knowing that he would pull a big enough lead before the next set of corners

Admittedly it did have 2 lardy blokes in it!

david · 13-04-2009, 12:59 PM

I think we need a new section on the Csl register forum "Csl + GT3 garage..."

I made the same "jump" a few months ago... but keep that Csl, No way I can sell that bmw weapon...

**glendog74** · 13-04-2009, 01:15 PM

Registered in Luxembourg David?

david · 13-04-2009, 01:55 PM

Yes, I have a "local address" there.. it help when you get caught by speedcam's in France, No contracts between France/luxembourg for speed tickets....

only Belgium has a partership for speedtickets with luxembourg...

13-04-2009, 07:59 AM	#32
Andyk Driving it like I nicked it Space Invaders Champion! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chepstow Posts: 2,506 Casino cash: $3997	I was never a fan of the mrk2 with those runny egg lights....mrk1 was much better looking. But then I saw this one. __________________ Last edited by Andyk; 13-04-2009 at 09:09 AM.

13-04-2009, 09:08 AM	#33
Andyk Driving it like I nicked it Space Invaders Champion! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chepstow Posts: 2,506 Casino cash: $3997	There's another Manthey GT3 for sale...he's looking for a CSL in exchange. http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/984428.htm __________________

13-04-2009, 12:59 PM	#38
david S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: just across the channel... Posts: 356 Casino cash: $2243	I think we need a new section on the Csl register forum "Csl + GT3 garage..." I made the same "jump" a few months ago... but keep that Csl, No way I can sell that bmw weapon... __________________ pleasure is not only in the straight line.....

13-04-2009, 01:15 PM	#39
glendog74 CSL Register Uber-poster! Tetris Champion! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cornwall Posts: 8,861 Casino cash: $32299	Registered in Luxembourg David? __________________ Cha'mone Mother F**ker!

13-04-2009, 01:55 PM	#40
david S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: just across the channel... Posts: 356 Casino cash: $2243	Yes, I have a "local address" there.. it help when you get caught by speedcam's in France, No contracts between France/luxembourg for speed tickets.... only Belgium has a partership for speedtickets with luxembourg... __________________ pleasure is not only in the straight line.....

13-04-2009, 12:10 PM	#36
Housey S3 - On the open road Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 96 Casino cash: $596	Where the GT3 scores is when you get it over 6000rpm at which point it has a spine tingling wail to it that sounds fantastic. The CSL sounds great at most speeds and from the outside coming towards you sounds epic....until it drives past and then is sounds shit with the tinny rasp that all E46 M's suffer from. When we did the rolling road event at Thorney Motorsport with MTorque I don't think anyone would argue that the GT3's sound fantastic at full chat on the rollers.