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Old 04-04-2014, 06:00 PM   #31
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I have to admit that RS29's do tend to squeal particularly when they are cold on OEM Calipers, but as I only ever use my brakes to bring the car to a stop, I use gears to slow down, using the Gears = No Squeal.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:08 PM   #32
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Ha ha, I was waiting for someone to pipe up. Or squeal like a pig as it were.

As for Clubber I would try my solution (despite having an AP set up) which is just to stick the RS29s in for track and then DS2500 for road. Incidentally I do not seem to get any noise from RS29s on my AP set up .

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Old 04-04-2014, 08:45 PM   #33
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Neil, brakes are for stopping, please don't use your engine
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Old 04-04-2014, 08:47 PM   #34
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I have to admit that RS29's do tend to squeal particularly when they are cold on OEM Calipers, but as I only ever use my brakes to bring the car to a stop, I use gears to slow down, using the Gears = No Squeal.
I am a track novice biffer neil but doesn't that method of driving make for "off the boil lap times"
and more importantly put additional strain on the drive train?
better to trash discs and pads scrubbing off speed swiftly?

Apologies Neil. I have just read this back and I sound well informed.

I am not!!
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:52 PM   #35
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Just dont put rs29s on oem brakes.
You have been warned !

I tried the bmw anti squeal paste twice.
It was horrible !

RS14 is the way to go
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I don't know if everyone is reading here the posts

RS29s on OEM /standard brakes -> SQUEAL of DEATH

RS29s on AP brakes -> do not squeal
I hear you loud and clear. Are you using RS14's ? Pagid dealer told me they would be louder than RS29 for they had less ceramic in them or something. I understand that is not the case.
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:07 PM   #36
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I run RS14s on my AP brakes and they hardly make any noise (the OEM brakes of the M5 squeal far more...).

I am aware of someone that fitted RS14s on the OEM CSL brakes and I don't remember having the problem the RS29s have.
The RS14 is a much softer pad (it wears out much faster) so I don't follow the logic of this pagid dealer.

Btw, Martin can supply you Pagids in good prices.
He is a top guy, great professional and a pleasure to deal with.

Martin > What do you think in terms of noise between RS29 and RS14 ?
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Using engine braking will not excessively wear anything provided you match revs nicely on the way down a box, which of course a CSL does nicely for you. On track it assists braking in big braking zones. Roughly changing down a manual box will wear clutch and transmission.

Really, the damage is negligible as long as you properly service cars/change oils.
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:15 AM   #38
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I don't know if everyone is reading here the posts

RS29s on OEM /standard brakes -> SQUEAL of DEATH

RS29s on AP brakes -> do not squeal
Well it's easy then? Buy ap brakes!
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Old 05-04-2014, 12:47 PM   #39
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I'm just talking about normal, in traffic driving, I've never been near a track (apart from a Trip to Oulton about 30 years ago - I'm told).

There are no country lanes where I live, just lots of police which does tend to inhibit the performance characteristics of the car.

Gears for gradual braking is the way I was taught to drive many years ago and it's probably the only thing I continue to do.
As the SMG is an auto assisted manual using it to slow down is far more user friendly than a conventional manual IME.
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Old 07-04-2014, 11:38 AM   #40
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I have RS29's on my porsche, I found the brake fluid made a huge difference in regards to Squealing.
Had new disc and pads fitted last month used with Sunoco R600, and hardly any squeal (at all temps) but i didn't like the brake pedal feel so had it changed it to Brake engineering dot 4 fluid last week.
Now its embarisingly loud when driving normal.
I have never known them to be this loud.
Possibly will go back to r600 and put up with pedal feel.
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