direzza dz02g - Page 3

**glendog74** · 22-02-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexGTT

Can someone tell me if DZ02s are still available?

What are DZ02s?

**AlexGTT** · 22-02-2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by glendog74

What are DZ02s?

Only the very bestest tyre ever invented in the history of the World.

**glendog74** · 22-02-2011, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexGTT

Only the very bestest tyre ever invented in the history of the World.

Ahh, that's why Matt has them!

I think i'll stick with the tried and tested Cup tyres

**AlexGTT** · 22-02-2011, 11:48 PM

Cups give me wood........

Did I just say that out loud!

**glendog74** · 22-02-2011, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexGTT

Cups give me wood........

Did I just say that out loud!

Good man!

titan · 23-02-2011, 01:00 AM

I first experienced DZ03 on a 550bhp evo - the R888s just got melted with that level of power on a 4WD drivetrain through corners (ie stomping on the gas). I continued with them as the power went up and up and they've done the job very well.

My bro started to get through a set of R888 on his R26.R in a single trackday so I suggested the same. Again, same result, the DZ03 handles abuse far better and although more expensive, worked out the cheaper buy.

however I will say this - they don't have quite as much feel to them as softer tyres and they need a good bit of heat in them. With wide profile in the rain they are very hard and plasticky and quite a liability.

I'm not using them on the CSL as I feel the CSL isn't heavy/powerful enough to demand them, I'll go back to R888 when they come back into stock !

oh, and I found Cup tyres very nice indeed, lots of feel and probably harder wearing than R888, but not by much, very little tread to start with and $$$ to buy.

**AlexGTT** · 23-02-2011, 05:27 PM

With the CSL correctly set up I have yet to find a compromise road/track trye that compares to Cups. The feel, stability, quick warm up times and ability to handle extensive track work without overheating are what I like about them. For all that I can forgive shallow tread depth and compromised abilities in very wet and/or very cold conditions.

Oh, and cost but when has quality ever been cheap?

Curly · 24-02-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by titan

I first experienced DZ03 on a 550bhp evo - the R888s just got melted with that level of power on a 4WD drivetrain through corners (ie stomping on the gas). I continued with them as the power went up and up and they've done the job very well.

My bro started to get through a set of R888 on his R26.R in a single trackday so I suggested the same. Again, same result, the DZ03 handles abuse far better and although more expensive, worked out the cheaper buy.

however I will say this - they don't have quite as much feel to them as softer tyres and they need a good bit of heat in them. With wide profile in the rain they are very hard and plasticky and quite a liability.

I'm not using them on the CSL as I feel the CSL isn't heavy/powerful enough to demand them, I'll go back to R888 when they come back into stock !

oh, and I found Cup tyres very nice indeed, lots of feel and probably harder wearing than R888, but not by much, very little tread to start with and $$$ to buy.

Spot on plus the 888 are very noisey the DZ03 not to bad but for me the cup's still the daddy overall

magnust · 25-02-2011, 04:24 PM

Both Direzza 2 and 3 are road legal here in Sweden thanks to the European equivalent to the US DOT approval, the "E" approval (have no idea what it's properly called in english, sorry). Since the "E" approval is European wide I'd be very surprised if they weren't road legal in the UK. They are both road legal in Germany for sure.

I've driven my previous M3 (a E36 four door) on a LOT of different r-tyres and the 02's were great but one had to be careful to pick the right compound, what Dunlop called medium was closer to other brands soft, on the M3 you had to go to hard not to burn up the 02's. I haven't heard much about the 03's other than that they are very very good, but it's possible the compound issue is the same. Just a friendly tip.

magnust · 25-02-2011, 04:31 PM

The only downside of the Michelins IMHO is that they are by far the worst gripping r-compound tire at low temperatures, say below 15 degrees or something. I never have such slippery first lap with r-compounds from Yokohama, Bridgestone, Dunlop, Toyo, Pirelli, Kumho in similar (not hot summer days...) conditions. But once you get just some heat in them they are truly superb!

22-02-2011, 11:48 PM	#24
AlexGTT CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 4,374 Casino cash: $8572	Cups give me wood........ Did I just say that out loud! __________________ CSL Register Alcoholics Anonymous Group Leader & Businessman of the Year '93! www.earleyengineering.com

23-02-2011, 05:27 PM	#27
AlexGTT CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 4,374 Casino cash: $8572	With the CSL correctly set up I have yet to find a compromise road/track trye that compares to Cups. The feel, stability, quick warm up times and ability to handle extensive track work without overheating are what I like about them. For all that I can forgive shallow tread depth and compromised abilities in very wet and/or very cold conditions. Oh, and cost but when has quality ever been cheap? __________________ CSL Register Alcoholics Anonymous Group Leader & Businessman of the Year '93! www.earleyengineering.com

25-02-2011, 04:24 PM	#29
magnust S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 138 Casino cash: $1477	Both Direzza 2 and 3 are road legal here in Sweden thanks to the European equivalent to the US DOT approval, the "E" approval (have no idea what it's properly called in english, sorry). Since the "E" approval is European wide I'd be very surprised if they weren't road legal in the UK. They are both road legal in Germany for sure. I've driven my previous M3 (a E36 four door) on a LOT of different r-tyres and the 02's were great but one had to be careful to pick the right compound, what Dunlop called medium was closer to other brands soft, on the M3 you had to go to hard not to burn up the 02's. I haven't heard much about the 03's other than that they are very very good, but it's possible the compound issue is the same. Just a friendly tip. __________________ My Swedish track day / hobby racing site: www.rejsa.nu

25-02-2011, 04:31 PM	#30
magnust S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 138 Casino cash: $1477	The only downside of the Michelins IMHO is that they are by far the worst gripping r-compound tire at low temperatures, say below 15 degrees or something. I never have such slippery first lap with r-compounds from Yokohama, Bridgestone, Dunlop, Toyo, Pirelli, Kumho in similar (not hot summer days...) conditions. But once you get just some heat in them they are truly superb! __________________ My Swedish track day / hobby racing site: www.rejsa.nu

23-02-2011, 01:00 AM	#26
titan S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 268 Casino cash: $1363	I first experienced DZ03 on a 550bhp evo - the R888s just got melted with that level of power on a 4WD drivetrain through corners (ie stomping on the gas). I continued with them as the power went up and up and they've done the job very well. My bro started to get through a set of R888 on his R26.R in a single trackday so I suggested the same. Again, same result, the DZ03 handles abuse far better and although more expensive, worked out the cheaper buy. however I will say this - they don't have quite as much feel to them as softer tyres and they need a good bit of heat in them. With wide profile in the rain they are very hard and plasticky and quite a liability. I'm not using them on the CSL as I feel the CSL isn't heavy/powerful enough to demand them, I'll go back to R888 when they come back into stock ! oh, and I found Cup tyres very nice indeed, lots of feel and probably harder wearing than R888, but not by much, very little tread to start with and $$$ to buy.