Who has a spare genuine bumper without flippers on?

[LeinsCSL]

Originally Posted by digi

I find the gen. looks way better. But thats just me. I suppose it will protect the CSL front bumper more though, especially the middle jaw.

Agree with that. I'm sure there are lots of aerodynamic benefits to this thing, but to me it looks nasty. Flippers all the way

[Mike R]

We're all different, and I only bought it because the CSL will be used on track and I wanted something that would improve the front end downforce, without looking like a complete abortion.

As standard the CSL still has some front end lift at speed, something I hoped this would address .

[_Nathan_]

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird

We're all different, and I only bought it because the CSL will be used on track and I wanted something that would improve the front end downforce, without looking like a complete abortion.

As standard the CSL still has some front end lift at speed, something I hoped this would address .

What are the figures you have for lift? The figures I have suggest very little lift at the front, far less than say a GT3 RS, yet a load more lift at the rear.

[alexk]

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

What are the figures you have for lift? The figures I have suggest very little lift at the front, far less than say a GT3 RS, yet a load more lift at the rear.

From Sport Auto ->

[_Nathan_]

They are the figures I had.

[Neil M]

Originally Posted by LeinsCSL

Agree with that. I'm sure there are lots of aerodynamic benefits to this thing, but to me it looks nasty. Flippers all the way

Oh you traditionalists it's only an set of joined up flippers.
If someone doesn't come up with a descent set of replicas, it's going to be something we all might have to consider at some point
Last time I inquired I was told the flippers were 'NLA'. Someone recently received a pair that had been of back order for several months, when the arrived they were unfinished CF, no gel/lacquer coating.

[Mike R]

And the figures I found , whereas the Escort has 60kg of negative lift on the front with the splitter fully extended (sorry for the photos Alex ):




You can see the adjustment points in this photo:

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by Neil M

Oh you traditionalists it's only an set of joined up flippers.
If someone doesn't come up with a descent set of replicas, it's going to be something we all might have to consider at some point
Last time I inquired I was told the flippers were 'NLA'. Someone recently received a pair that had been of back order for several months, when the arrived they were unfinished CF, no gel/lacquer coating.

Neil,
Don't fret, when I get mine, the first thing I will be doing is getting the flippers replicated. My guy does carbon for historic F1 cars (so is proper pre-preg stuff), so the quality is there .

Here is an example of an Escort carbon airbox :

[Neil M]

Good to hear Mike, you'll be doing a group buy then?
Many have tried but very few have achieved to replicate the flippers with accuracy to date, making the mold apparently is the biggest problem.
A lost art these days, unless you have access to a computer controlled compound milling machine - Looks like your man does

[Mike R]

Neil,
Put it this way, he's the one that supplies Mitsubishi with the carbon for all their FQ cars, so I don't think you need to worry .