Rear top mount removal - Page 2

Equinox · 28-12-2012, 06:38 PM

The spring will only rattle when either the car gets light, air or a lot of weight transfer to raise a certain corner enough to take all shockabsorber pressure from the spring. 90% of the time it'd be perfect.

s.mac · 28-12-2012, 06:42 PM

Thanks

I was only looking for something to do while the wheels are off

s.mac · 29-12-2012, 12:13 PM

The lower spring looks like a proper spring and not a spacer

Equinox · 29-12-2012, 12:40 PM

The lower spring is an assistor spring designed at a lot lower poundage than the main spring so it sits totally compressed when weight is on it and will extend when the suspension is 'light' in order to keep the main spring in place and stop it rattling around, it needs to be a spring then it can extend as expected. If you didnt have those the spring could come out of the top spring cup and when weight is returned the spring may sit out of the cup or be noisy when going back into the cup. The assistor spring keep enough pressure to keep the spring in the top seat / cup at all times

s.mac · 29-12-2012, 12:53 PM

cheers

I'm going to leave it alone

s.mac · 29-12-2012, 06:20 PM

Sorry, back again ....

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The lower spring is an assistor spring designed at a lot lower poundage than the main spring so it sits totally compressed when weight is on it and will extend when the suspension is 'light' in order to keep the main spring in place and stop it rattling around, it needs to be a spring then it can extend as expected. If you didnt have those the spring could come out of the top spring cup and when weight is returned the spring may sit out of the cup or be noisy when going back into the cup. The assistor spring keep enough pressure to keep the spring in the top seat / cup at all times

The car can still be dropped quite a bit, AST did offer to do it but I decided to see if it dropped by itself, I didn't want it too low.
The spring, which isn't really a spring would be fitted where then? If I were to go lower the above could happen? Fine on load but could clunk when not loaded, would it go right at the bottom to space the assistor spring higher up? To stop keep the main spring pushed up in location on the top cone?

s.mac · 29-12-2012, 06:21 PM

Shock

shane@mbtech · 30-12-2012, 05:45 PM

That is a helper/tender spring on your car already, and is rated to run in combination with the main spring, the main spring rate will be set with this in mind. Its to do with progressive action.

The "spring" you have is to do exactly what AST say it will do Steve.

If you lower the car, just fit it.AST know their own product afterall. And you are more than welcome to pop down on a saturday and we will sort all that stuff out for you. Will take me 20 minutes, ill even show you the way of the jedi.

We need some outdoor security lights fitting on our unit anyway

, bring your tool kit. Or Phil

s.mac · 30-12-2012, 06:38 PM

LOL, I can sort that out for you mate

I will give you a buzz in the new year

Ta for info on above, I know the kit is good and thought their must be a place for it, they were spot on in Holland and I was just going to ask them the correct place to fit, top, middle or bottom

I don't think I will bother for 5mm

Equinox · 30-12-2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lawsy

AST know their own product afterall

I think that depends on who you talk to !

28-12-2012, 06:38 PM	#11
Equinox S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 554 Casino cash: $5666	The spring will only rattle when either the car gets light, air or a lot of weight transfer to raise a certain corner enough to take all shockabsorber pressure from the spring. 90% of the time it'd be perfect. __________________ '03 E46 SG CSL #084 '84 CAPRI 3.7 V6 '13 DISCOVERY 4 HSE '91 NOVA GTE '16 HONDA TRX500 QUAD

29-12-2012, 12:40 PM	#14
Equinox S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 554 Casino cash: $5666	The lower spring is an assistor spring designed at a lot lower poundage than the main spring so it sits totally compressed when weight is on it and will extend when the suspension is 'light' in order to keep the main spring in place and stop it rattling around, it needs to be a spring then it can extend as expected. If you didnt have those the spring could come out of the top spring cup and when weight is returned the spring may sit out of the cup or be noisy when going back into the cup. The assistor spring keep enough pressure to keep the spring in the top seat / cup at all times __________________ '03 E46 SG CSL #084 '84 CAPRI 3.7 V6 '13 DISCOVERY 4 HSE '91 NOVA GTE '16 HONDA TRX500 QUAD

30-12-2012, 05:45 PM	#18
shane@mbtech CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: warrington Posts: 5,419 Casino cash: $19783	That is a helper/tender spring on your car already, and is rated to run in combination with the main spring, the main spring rate will be set with this in mind. Its to do with progressive action. The "spring" you have is to do exactly what AST say it will do Steve. If you lower the car, just fit it.AST know their own product afterall. And you are more than welcome to pop down on a saturday and we will sort all that stuff out for you. Will take me 20 minutes, ill even show you the way of the jedi. We need some outdoor security lights fitting on our unit anyway, bring your tool kit. Or Phil

28-12-2012, 06:42 PM	#12
s.mac CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,247 Casino cash: $15600	Thanks I was only looking for something to do while the wheels are off

29-12-2012, 12:53 PM	#15
s.mac CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,247 Casino cash: $15600	cheers I'm going to leave it alone

30-12-2012, 06:38 PM	#19
s.mac CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,247 Casino cash: $15600	LOL, I can sort that out for you mate I will give you a buzz in the new year Ta for info on above, I know the kit is good and thought their must be a place for it, they were spot on in Holland and I was just going to ask them the correct place to fit, top, middle or bottom I don't think I will bother for 5mm