Winter and cups = - Page 2

mattCSLnut · 30-12-2009, 02:28 AM

Can common sense PLEEEZZZ prevail

. All summer tyres stop working below 5 dec C so regardless of being legal or not, why take a chance with a CSL on Cup, in winter ?

... and please don't ask what common sense is

Dan · 30-12-2009, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bromers

I had my car delivered by a BMW dealer a few years ago - it was below 5 degrees on the yday they delivered it and they had to deliver/drive the car with the spare tyres/wheels on (less than 3mm of tread!!) - they said they weren't insured to drive the car with Cups on under 5 degrees.

Not sure whether that would apply to an individual but I never had any more problems with cold Cups then any other cold 'summer' tyre.

Rick

Sounds like total BS to me mate, all dealers/traders and garages etc have either a motor trade policy with road risks cover or a proper fleet policy, in 10 years of writing these insurance policies day in day out I have NEVER come accross or been informed of any endorsement that restrict what tyres you use!

jim76 · 30-12-2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

Sounds like total BS to me mate, all dealers/traders and garages etc have either a motor trade policy with road risks cover or a proper fleet policy, in 10 years of writing these insurance policies day in day out I have NEVER come accross or been informed of any endorsement that restrict what tyres you use!

They may have told the customer that, because they frighten the sh1t out of the drivers at the dealerships about these tyres!

A local BMW dealership to me were delivering a long awaited CSL to a customer (new, may I add, a few years ago!). Some young valeter was being followed to the customer's house, so thought he'd show off at a set of lights only a few hundred yards from the garage. Whatever he did, he nailed it hard, probably with the traction off, and took the side off the CSL against a Transit van!! Apparently they couldn't sack him because he was never made aware about the tyres in the way a new owner was.

I also heard there was a disclaimer to sign upon removing your CSL from the dealership with Cups fitted, to state you understood that the tyres were poor when cold and in damp conditions?? Not sure if that is true, anyone?

**glendog74** · 31-12-2009, 01:54 AM

At the end of the day, we all know where Cups excel and when to use them: in the dry on road or track - Simples!

SpineOnABap · 31-12-2009, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jim76

I also heard there was a disclaimer to sign upon removing your CSL from the dealership with Cups fitted, to state you understood that the tyres were poor when cold and in damp conditions?? Not sure if that is true, anyone?

There certainly was a form like that. From memory (it was June 2003!) I think I had to sign the form at order confirmation time, when we went in to spec the car for build. Actually I still have the PDF files the dealer emailed over (order specification sheet, disclaimer etc).

jim76 · 31-12-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by glendog74

At the end of the day, we all know where Cups excel and when to use them: in the dry on road or track - Simples!

Exactly!! Why would you take any car out in the poor weather on Cups?? For the sake of a few hundred pounds on winter tyres, which lets be honest, don't need to be the greatest, I would not want to risk wrapping my pride and joy!!

**shimmy** · 31-12-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jim76

Exactly!! Why would you take any car out in the poor weather on Cups?? For the sake of a few hundred pounds on winter tyres, which lets be honest, !!

Gayer......

**alexk** · 31-12-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by shimmy

Gayer......

+1

BTW, these are my winter tires

TANKSLAPPER · 31-12-2009, 10:14 AM

Alex, what make and size are your winter tyres ?

T$

**alexk** · 31-12-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TANKSLAPPER

Alex, what make and size are your winter tyres ?

T$

Vredestein Wintrac Extreme
235/35/19 W
265/30/19 W
standard CSL dimensions.
They are very very good. I have them since last winter and they are excellent in rain and snow. Also, they weren't expensive (60% of the price of cups).

PS :
forgot to mention that I had the same brand and type in
Ford mondeo ST220 (sold)
Mini cooper S (sold)
325i E90 (we have it, my wife drives it)
Full marks for these tires

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