M4 v CSL

[0836whimper]

They are both very fast, but one's got a stonking great carbon air-box that makes incredible noises, the other one hasn't.

(there's an Evo article on the CSL Airbox by the way)

[Marv968]

Originally Posted by 0836whimper

(there's an Evo article on the CSL Airbox by the way)

What issue is that?

[still no worries]

you would think bmw would have made it faster by now !

[0836whimper]

Originally Posted by Marv968

What issue is that?

It's on (in ?) the app right now and presumably will be in the next print edition in the 'Art of Speed' section, back page.



"When the M3 CSL hit the streets there were gasps. Here was a hardcore statement of intent.....with 355bhp courtesy of an outrageously in-yer-face fist of a carbon fibre airbox....extending the engine's aerobic reach to new heights.....few engines from anywhere have ever sounded better."

"It's a sound that seductively asserts that the E46 CSL remains the most focused, hardcore M3 of the lot."

etc etc

[MCSL]

Originally Posted by cslsuperfan

They are growing on me though

They'll be growing on me too when the low-deposit, £500/month, 0%, 5yrs Free servicing deals kick off. Until then... the new C63s gets my tail wagging!

[pinkpanther008]

http://www.pistonheads.com/gAssing/t...GTS+testing%3F

[Mark CSL]

Originally Posted by MCSL

They'll be growing on me too when the low-deposit, £500/month, 0%, 5yrs Free servicing deals kick off. Until then... the new C63s gets my tail wagging!

+1 they are dropping in price but the deals are crap i thinks thats why they are not many about the deals are just not there
My m8 has just ordered a new cayman gts and was offered 4.1% apr bmw want 7.1%

[Clubber]

I test drove one during BMW M Experience here in Istanbul at Istanbul Park F1 Circuit. Having attended many track days with my CSL there I was able to compare turn speeds, handling etc.

I could safely say except for the noise department the new M4 excels in every possible way. Lag was almost non-existent, handling was perfect, brakes were excellent (ceramics) and power was immense. It is a great car and a fitting M car.

I think BMW cracks this M3 thing in every two generations. E30, E46 and F80 are the best of all, the others are just in-between models IMO.

[Marv968]

Originally Posted by 0836whimper

It's on (in ?) the app right now and presumably will be in the next print edition in the 'Art of Speed' section, back page.



"When the M3 CSL hit the streets there were gasps. Here was a hardcore statement of intent.....with 355bhp courtesy of an outrageously in-yer-face fist of a carbon fibre airbox....extending the engine's aerobic reach to new heights.....few engines from anywhere have ever sounded better."

"It's a sound that seductively asserts that the E46 CSL remains the most focused, hardcore M3 of the lot."

etc etc

Must be in the upcoming issue.

[E46CSL]

Originally Posted by Clubber

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I think BMW cracks this M3 thing in every two generations. E30, E46 and F80 are the best of all, the others are just in-between models IMO.

E36M3 was the 1st mass market M3, and is appreciated more than in recent years. Wonderful ride. Great dedicated track day car, better than the later ones.

The E92 - more difficult to fall in love with this, weight, size, lack of torque & not really track friendly. A grown up M3 that did not pull at the heart strings.