BMW subframe goodwill coming to an end...?

[Heisenburg]

Originally Posted by Bounce

Not that I've got one,but what about stock E46 M3s,some of these are 06 plates.

As far as I'm aware, the subframe is only an issue up to 03. I haven't heard of any of the newer E46's needing the repair.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Where not all CSL's built 03 even though some are registered 04

[DazBlackCSL]

Originally Posted by CraigMillwardCroft

Where not all CSL's built 03 even though some are registered 04

yep spot on

[Neil M]

Originally Posted by Heisenburg

As far as I'm aware, the subframe is only an issue up to 03. I haven't heard of any of the newer E46's needing the repair.

All CSLs were built between July and December 03, some were registered 03, others in 04 and 1 or 2 in 05.

All the E46's range suffer from the same inherent design fault, with the exception of the touring.

However it tends to manifest on M3s and the CSL in particular (cardboard weight saving) as they were intended to be driven enthusiastically! Higher torsional stresses, more flex in the structure, hence the cracks.

Some might consider having the cracks a badge of honor, if it ain't got cracks it's never realised its true potential - I remain Crack Free

[shimmy]

If BMW have drawn a line under the period of goodwill, I personally would ignore this and attempt to contact BMW either as a warranty claim under 12 years bodywork OR a 'fit for purpose' claim, ie the car should surely not fall to bits at 10 years.

This is why they gave the 10 years in the first place, and the 10 year arbitrary period is their invention and not subject to any court test, so try them out!

If you put them under pressure you never kow, they might just do it to keep you quiet.

[Pip1968]

It almost makes you sorry that you don't have the crack. I do not have one and have had it checked by ELMs and my local BMW dealership and now I think that perhaps I should just ask for a goodwill job premeditatively. Did not someone on here go down that route with ELMs.

What was the price for a 'just in case job' through BMW?

How many are left without cracks????

Pip
Ps I still have a warranty if that makes any difference.

[Neil M]

Originally Posted by Pip1968

It almost makes you sorry that you don't have the crack. I do not have one and have had it checked by ELMs and my local BMW dealership and now I think that perhaps I should just ask for a goodwill job premeditatively. Did not someone on here go down that route with ELMs.

What was the price for a 'just in case job' through BMW?

How many are left without cracks????

Pip
Ps I still have a warranty if that makes any difference.

BMW's liability starts when the cracks appear, rather a head in the sand approach to a known problem, a problem know to exist since they issued a directive to all Dealerships in 03 (Copy available if you send me a PM)

I personally would have thought preventative treatment would have been more advantageous, to them as a company rather than the curative remedy, which must cost them K's per individual car.

'LeinsCSL' had the preventative treatment undertaken by a company in Warrington, the cost was about 1K from memory.

[Heisenburg]

Originally Posted by Pip1968

What was the price for a 'just in case job' through BMW?

I'll be up in Elms sometime next week...will quiz them a bit more on this 'deadline', and will see what they offer in terms of a 'just in case job'.

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by Neil M

All CSLs were built between July and December 03, some were registered 03, others in 04 and 1 or 2 in 05.

All the E46's range suffer from the same inherent design fault, with the exception of the touring.

However it tends to manifest on M3s and the CSL in particular (cardboard weight saving) as they were intended to be driven enthusiastically! Higher torsional stresses, more flex in the structure, hence the cracks.

Some might consider having the cracks a badge of honor, if it ain't got cracks it's never realised its true potential - I remain Crack Free

Mine had no signs of it either (I had it checked within a couple of weeks of buying it) - I then did just three track days and then took it in for Gareth to inspect - thankfully it had cracked and I've just had it back from them with the repairs having been carried out .

Gareth reckoned that he had seen LOADS that had done so all of a sudden (Trawler's had been in for an MOT and had some just found as I was there). It seems that 10 years brings out the cracks LOL.

[MCSL]

Booked in for 4th Feb 2014 at Elms Bedford for the subframe jobbie...