Anglesey today

[shimmy]

only time i have got near to a whole set of fronts was at BEDFORD before i had adjustable camber plates

i used to wear thru there the outer rubber quite quickly and partly caused by not enough front negative camber and partly caused by runing too many hot laps and getting the rubber too hot

[glendog74]

I near ruined a brand new set of front PS2s at the Ring last year for the reasons that Shimmy mentions - front left sidewall was balder than a Fillipino teen bride...

I had adjustable top mount camber plates fitted in November so it will be interesting to see what tyre wear i get with them on track setting.

[Nords]

Damon's tyre (in my garage)...

[Bealo]

[quote=glendog74;18980] - front left sidewall was balder than a Fillipino teen bride...



Quality.....

[Bealo]

Originally Posted by Steve Gill

Looks like you had a good day :-)

Tom Schirmer in Germany told me the Cups are designed for a certain amount of negative camber, quite high 3 degrees or thereabouts I think I recall. Reason I mention this is because I've never gone through a set of Cups in only 1 trackday (I run about -3.5), so I wonder if because the std CSL is 1 or 1.5 degrees negative when taken on track and given a good skelping that's what's causing you to wear them out?

Obviously toe out would affect them as well, but I presume your running standard Geo?

Just a thought, I could be wrong

What Geo settings would you recommend for fast road/trackdays Steve...

Originally Posted by Bealo

What Geo settings would you recommend for fast road/trackdays Steve...

Erm....feck, I knew someone would ask me this LOL

I can't 100% remember, but I'm getting the car aligned next week (after the rear axle was removed) so I'll check with the garage and let you know. As my car is pretty much 100% track I think my settings would be too extreme for normal road use, will wear out the tyres too fast. I would suspect 1 to 1.5 degrees negative on the front, and can't remember on the back

One thing I can recommend avoiding for the road -at the beginning of 2007 I had (on advice) some toe out set on the front, the car was excellent on turn in and I really liked it, what I didn't realise was the wear on the inside of the tyres - driving round the ring, 3rd last corner, the car suddenly went sqweeeelbbb (technical term) and when I got back to the car park I could hear a hissing noise, the inside edge was balder than Glendog74's teen bride (didn't know you were married Glendog!). Perhaps having driven for 3 hours on german autobahns the day before had something to do with it...

[SpineOnABap]

Steve, I wouldn't ever run toe out on the front for road-use, as the roads are just too crap. Turn-in is pretty stunning with a few mins TOE-IN anyway. On a glass smooth track (eg, Silverstone) it may well be worth it though

[csl_mba]

That looks like you had a blast Hazy, loving the mpg guage

[houlbt]

As discussed you're killing the tyres because you probably don't have enough negative camber at the front. If you get your car setup properly you can certainly get more life and better performance from those Cups.

I don't recommend toe out on the front of a car for road use.

[azrael]

Radders those black wheels on a black car look ace!