New owner!

[Jon8710]

welcome mate

lovely looking cesil

me and my brother are off to snetterton Tuesday get yourself down there !

[LHutchin]

Hi

How does the CSL compare to your RS?

Originally Posted by toenheel

Evening everyone

I've been lurking on here for years and finally last week took ownership of a CSL. The car in question is EVLXGE on heres old motor, Ian is one of my best mates so I've known the car for a number of years. I've met a couple of you in the past either at Croft or Nurburgring.

Anyway pic of barry the beemer below and some of my old motors. Took the CSL out properly on friday night gone and blown away by it. Such an occasion and the noise is to die for! Roll on the summer

Phil.




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[toenheel]

Originally Posted by LHutchin

Hi

How does the CSL compare to your RS?

Completely different car tbh. My RS was stage 1 mapped and exhaust so around 340bhp. Power delivery in the RS was brutal as you went from zero torque to the full wallop in as much time as the turbo needed to spool up so dry roads were crucial which is much the same as csl to get the best out of it. The RS also had a relatively narrow powerband so you rode a wave of torque rather than wringing out every last rev like in the CSL. On the road in the real world I don't ultimately think there is a great deal in it straight line wise although the CSL is quicker you would need to redline a number of gears to pull a gap at silly speeds.

My first issue with the Ford after numerous german cars is the build quality.. rear wheel arches rust no matter how pedantic you are with cleaning and underneath the car just isn't engineered like a german built motor, the smallest amount of salt and the underneath rusts. My second issue and biggest problem is the fwd..revo knuckle and a limited slip diff still dont stop the RS from feeling rather clumsy under power and cornering even with the standard power and the handling although fantastic for a hot hatch really isn't in the same league as the CSL due to the weight your throwing around, it also felt very light on the rear end under hard cornering and numerous versions I looked at before mine had quarter panel repair or replacement probably due to lift off oversteer when someone felt the back end get light and panicked. I loved the 5 cyl noise in the ford but lets be honest the CSL is one of the best sounding cars money can buy. In summary its unfair to compare a focus rs with the CSL for a number of reasons really but I will only say that the Ford was on the wishlist even after my previous cars and its been ticked and enjoyed but the CSL could well be a keeper.

phil

[LHutchin]

Thanks for your reply
Interested to see that you've had Lotuses as well
I've got a 340R which is a unique drive but somewhat compromised!
Hopefully I can get a CSL soon

[s.mac]

Quote:
Originally Posted by s.mac
Welcome enjoy

Tim used to have one up there, I can't remember his forum name. There are a few lads up there who used to do all the track stuff but I haven't seen them about for a bit. Good set of lads
Tim= E46acs ? My car is his old one . It went down south for a while and I brought it back north

Yep, that's Tim, really good guy with some good mates, always had a laugh with them on trips away and track days

I've been round croft in your car ..........

[toenheel]

Originally Posted by LHutchin

Thanks for your reply
Interested to see that you've had Lotuses as well
I've got a 340R which is a unique drive but somewhat compromised!
Hopefully I can get a CSL soon

I've always been intrigued by the 340R mad little cars! Practically free motoring also it seems prices on them have always remained strong.

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by toenheel

but the CSL could well be a keeper.

phil

if you are saying that in mid February with the damp and cold, you'll be over the moon come the first sunny day in April

[toenheel]

Originally Posted by shimmy

if you are saying that in mid February with the damp and cold, you'll be over the moon come the first sunny day in April

I cant wait for the weather to turn and have some confidence cornering lol!!

[73CSL]

Originally Posted by s.mac

Yep, that's Tim, really good guy with some good mates, always had a laugh with them on trips away and track days

I've been round croft in your car ..........

I don't know Tim personally, but he's a mate of a mate ..... Co Durham lads all know how to have a laugh

Since Tim owned it, its had a complete new cylinder head etc done by Elms as the lad I bought it from had a Vanos failure in the Alps

Only track I've driven the CSL on is Croft

[glendog74]

Originally Posted by 73CSL

Tim= E46acs ? My car is his old one . It went down south for a while and I brought it back north

I'm pretty sure it was Tim that I sold my Milltek exhaust to a few years back.