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Old 11-07-2012, 01:50 PM   #11
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Good luck Toby and i hope Nitron gives you what you were after in the first place.
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:01 PM   #12
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Hi,

Quote- ''The front coilovers have Nitron's own adjustable drop links, the rears keep the standard ones.

If this is fact, then ask their Technical Guy,
that if the rear is now going to run at a
lower ride height, which is what you stated
you require, then upon Corner Weighting
the Car how do they intend to deal with
rear ARB Pre-Load ?

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Old 11-07-2012, 02:17 PM   #13
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I had the first Nitron kit with a 10mm drop that they made for the Noble M12, few issues initially with it bottoming out but once sorted they were mega.

Had them on my TVR as well but you can't polish a turd :D
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:40 PM   #14
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Had them on my TVR as well but you can't polish a turd :D


While you are going there, did Jim have them on his Focus STi?
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:47 PM   #15
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I know loads of people who have tried Nitron, with same issues as yourself.

Not only on BMW but lots of other marques.
I have said to quite a few guys that the early Nitron M3 and CSL kits were flawed. A few guys in LeonB with his CSL had similar issues with them, and even returned them.



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I only know 1 person that has used Nitrons, and his car felt really good around Donington


So good for Nitron, I don't think many manufacturers would go so far out of their way to help....


Hope you all get it sorted Toby
My Nitron was the Track NTR (full coilover). They were 2 separate way adjustable and therefore complicated to fine tune, but when I had them running at Donny they were performed ok until I started mucking around with them. Trouble is with 2 way you have to experiment a lot more to get the right settings whereas the valving and springs on then Intrax 1K2 seem to work perfect across the whole range.
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:53 PM   #16
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So good for Nitron, I don't think many manufacturers would go so far out of their way to help....


Hope you all get it sorted Toby
Cheers Jim, me too, I think it's very generous of them to help me out and for that hats off to them.

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Good luck Toby and i hope Nitron gives you what you were after in the first place.
Thanks Stuart, fingers crossed it will be sorted...you owe me a ride in your Porker now btw

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If this is fact, then ask their Technical Guy,
that if the rear is now going to run at a
lower ride height, which is what you stated
you require, then upon Corner Weighting
the Car how do they intend to deal with
rear ARB Pre-Load ?

Regards,

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Gorillaman,

I think you should come with me and you can baboozle their techincal bods...I don't have the answer for that question...but my limited understanding is that things like KW V3's or Clubsports use the oem drop links at the rear, so surely cars with a lower than stock ride height using those would also face the same problem?
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:12 PM   #17
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Hi,

To properly corner weight ''any'' car
you must undo the ARB.

There must be no pre- load on the ARB.

You then corner weight and re-attach the
ARB.

But if the car runs lower than the stock ride
height by re-attaching the ARB with the
standard non adjustable drop links you automatically
alter the Corner weighting.

To retain the Corner weighting the ARB must
be attached with no pre-load

This is why I am really surprised that those
who are doing this for a Living seem either not
to understand or simply ignore basic Suspension
set up protocol.

If this 'Baboozle's'' Nitron then I am really Glad
that I have Intrax.

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The kw kit comes with its own arb drop links.

At g man.

Most places do know what they are doing, but they are catering for the masses.
The masses that follow like sheep.

And for a road car/ track car IMO corner weighting to the gram is pointless.
Throw a passenger in, run 30 litres more fuel, etc etc and the corner weighting is out. There are too many variables with suspension setup ESP on a road car that negate the importance.

Majority won't know the difference anyhow.

I've driven cars with cheap coilovers that owners believe have transformed the cars handling. They are not lieing, but not transformed for the better, much made the car worse than stock. But because it's got coilovers on they believe it must be better.
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If this 'Baboozle's'' Nitron then I am really Glad
that I have Intrax.
I will ask the question next week when I am there, it might not bamboozle Nitron, but it does me, but then I am a bit of a technical supsension retard (as it probably shows!)
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While you are going there, did Jim have them on his Focus STi?
You never experienced a ride in the blue banger did you


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My Nitron was the Track NTR (full coilover). They were 2 separate way adjustable and therefore complicated to fine tune, but when I had them running at Donny they were performed ok until I started mucking around with them. Trouble is with 2 way you have to experiment a lot more to get the right settings whereas the valving and springs on then Intrax 1K2 seem to work perfect across the whole range.
I managed ok with my separate rebound and compression on my KW
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