Opinions please!!!

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by the bear

Hi guys,

I also have been looking at this csl alot over the last few weeks, did anybody notice that the m3csl badge is on the wrong place on the boot lid, maybe the car has been rear ended, apart from that it looks good.

Cheers,

GARY.

although common for the L to break off when cleaning so could just be replaced badly!

[the bear]

Im sorry but I do not agree, I dont have a csl yet but I do have a e30 m3 sport evo show car and if I broke part of the badge off, it would definitely be put back on the place it came off, if you broke the L off would you not know if the badge was to go above or below the line on the boot lid I know that I would put it above the line and im sure you would too. It put me right off that csl.

Cheers,

GARY.

[shane@mbtech]

Originally Posted by the bear

Im sorry but I do not agree, I dont have a csl yet but I do have a e30 m3 sport evo show car and if I broke part of the badge off, it would definitely be put back on the place it came off, if you broke the L off would you not know if the badge was to go above or below the line on the boot lid I know that I would put it above the line and im sure you would too. It put me right off that csl.

Cheers,

GARY.

Me too, glad you pointed it out

[Andyk]

I always find the comparison between CSL and Evo an odd one....I never owned an Evo but driven many and I would say they are 2 very different cars to be honest. CSL is a far more involving car to drive where as I found the Evo was all about neck breaking acceleration. All depends what you want from a car to be honest..the CSL is def easier to live with everyday as I found the ride much better and it's a nicer place to be sat in, but a turbo car will always have that eye popping shove to scare your passengers.....not that the CSL doesn't impress....once you hear the induction roar you will never go back. Well I say that but a few have on here.

The CSL was made for the track...the Evo was made for the rally....2 very different cars I would say.

You will only know if a CSL is for you once you have driven one....get yourself out there and have a go.

[glendog74]

Agree with Andyk, the Evo and CSL are two cars with two very different design principles and characters.

I only ever owned one Evo - a mildly tuned VI TME and it really was a fun car to drive and to drive rather fast scaring any passenger that dared to sit next to me! The 4WD really inspired confidence in the car and it's abilities (especially in the wet) - maybe too much at times! I think that i simply tired of it after a while as there were too many compromises to ownership and my wallet was always rather empty! Without wishing to sound snobby, I think i just 'grew out' of it and wanted something without the 'turbo nutter' image! My only one regret was never tracking the car but i do not for one minute wish to go back

The CSL on the other hand is a different kettle of fish altogether! I wont bore you with everything that is great about it but it really is superb as an everyday car and if used properly on track - a simply awesome car! I would only really consider a 997 GT3 as a replacement, and that would take some serious money to afford - for minimal performance gain on track...

Yes, the Evo may be faster in a straight line and give that 'turbo buzz' but its not a patch on that special feeling of ownership satisfaction and exclusivity that the CSL gives you. Just my opinion...

[dave1]

depends what you want to do i guess i you drive up runways all day stick with evo if not enjoy the csl

csl is quicker round the ring and top gear track which is a better comparison on twisty roads

[DazBlackCSL]

Originally Posted by glendog74

Agree with Andyk, the Evo and CSL are two cars with two very different design principles and characters.

I only ever owned one Evo - a mildly tuned VI TME and it really was a fun car to drive and to drive rather fast scaring any passenger that dared to sit next to me! The 4WD really inspired confidence in the car and it's abilities (especially in the wet) - maybe too much at times! I think that i simply tired of it after a while as there were too many compromises to ownership and my wallet was always rather empty! Without wishing to sound snobby, I think i just 'grew out' of it and wanted something without the 'turbo nutter' image! My only one regret was never tracking the car but i do not for one minute wish to go back

The CSL on the other hand is a different kettle of fish altogether! I wont bore you with everything that is great about it but it really is superb as an everyday car and if used properly on track - a simply awesome car! I would only really consider a 997 GT3 as a replacement, and that would take some serious money to afford - for minimal performance gain on track...

Yes, the Evo may be faster in a straight line and give that 'turbo buzz' but its not a patch on that special feeling of ownership satisfaction and exclusivity that the CSL gives you. Just my opinion...

Beautifully put

and totally agree , my only car on radar is GT3 ... but just too much for me currently ..poss when the CSL is paid off tho

[glendog74]

Originally Posted by DazBlackCSL

Beautifully put

and totally agree

[Jaw_F430]

Also one thing to consider which a lot of people forget is that you are comparing a modified evo against a stock CSL. You start fitting a S/C to your CSL and the straight line speed will be there (I wouldn't do this though as you lose that lovely carbon intake).

[englebert]

I know even with the mods the Evo is probably cheaper but i agree, a bit unfair to compare a very modified car to a stock one.

A couple of guys at work have Evos, i respect them greatly but i don't think i could deal with the stigma. Owning a BMW is worse enough!