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Old 09-09-2013, 03:23 PM   #11
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good car, not neccesarilly the pick of the aircooled 911's ... it & the CSL are very different

I'm lucky to have both a 1973 2.4S 911 & a CSL .. If I could only have one, the CSL would go ( very reluctantly I've got to say ). The 911 is way more involving & fun on the road .. the CSL is in another league for enjoyment on the track though
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:35 PM   #12
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good car, not neccesarilly the pick of the aircooled 911's ... it & the CSL are very different

I'm lucky to have both a 1973 2.4S 911 & a CSL .. If I could only have one, the CSL would go ( very reluctantly I've got to say ). The 911 is way more involving & fun on the road .. the CSL is in another league for enjoyment on the track though
May be a daft question - but is the difference in involvement down to the CSL's SMG?
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May be a daft question - but is the difference in involvement down to the CSL's SMG?
No not really ... the 911 just has more feedback everywhere, you feel part of the car , yet the suspension is supple ... the steering is loverly & you can feel everything back through it ... the noise is pure 70's 911 race car ( just listen to LeMans the movie & you'll know what I mean ) , ...the engine in my S is a real revvy & cammy motor with the power really coming in around 5000rpm ..... its the sum of everything that makes each drive fun , wether going for a tour , or ringing its neck . Ultimately it gets under your skin .

The CSL is also great in a different way,... I love the CSL and can see me keeping for a very long time .

Its fun on the road and a bit more playful than the 911 , but I'll be honest, having only taken it on track the once, thats where it all made sense. The only critisism ( & even then its only minor & might sound like its an issue when it isn't ) I have of the CSL is its steering feel , just a bit too light feeling , doesn't really weight up with not a huge amount of feedback , just lacks that feel through your fingertips thing..... I think the SMG actually adds to the CSL experience

Interestingly , my wife loves the 911 & will happily passenger me in it across Europe etc .... where as she is not a fan of the CSL thinking its too noisy & uncomfortable ! might be someting to do with full throttle gear changes in S5
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Old 09-09-2013, 05:53 PM   #14
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I have of the CSL is its steering feel , just a bit too light feeling , doesn't really weight up with not a huge amount of feedback , just lacks that feel through your fingertips thing..... I think the SMG actually adds to the CSL experience
I think you can get a bit more feel/weight in the steering by fiddling with the suspension geometry. I had my car aligned a while ago, they put it on on less aggressive front camber settings, and the steering was a lot lighter afterwards. I'm thinking of having it put back again actually.
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:08 PM   #15
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I think the SMG actually adds to the CSL experience

Interestingly , my wife loves the 911 & will happily passenger me in it across Europe etc .... where as she is not a fan of the CSL thinking its too noisy & uncomfortable ! might be someting to do with full throttle gear changes in S5
I definitely agree re SMG adding to the CSL's experience, particularly on track.

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I think you can get a bit more feel/weight in the steering by fiddling with the suspension geometry. I had my car aligned a while ago, they put it on on less aggressive front camber settings, and the steering was a lot lighter afterwards. I'm thinking of having it put back again actually.
On race/lowered suspension with aggressive front camber of -3.5 it feels heavier than standard
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