Immaculate M3 SMG...

[funtime]

Originally Posted by Bounce

Mine was 03 reg and pre-face lift,no led rears.The strut brace and side bolsters was not classed as a face lift and i had those.Just be be careful mate as no way is a 52 plate a facelift.

Oh ok I didn't know that, thanks

Originally Posted by toofastforyou

exactly.

@funtime i've owned m3s since 01 when they first came out, so I know very well this is no facelift. either bmw lied to you, or you are lying. ask anyone that knows about e46 m3s, if it has the silver smg badge above the button for shift times it is 100% pre-facelift. i'm sorry to inform you it has just had the rear LEDs added.

the way I worded the comment about your trade offer statement is how any potential buyer will interpret it.

and i've never heard of any car manufacturer to do a 'half' facelift, and then a year later do a 'full' facelift.

Ok, careful - the word lying is quite strong. I'm just stating what information I had and where I had got it from. If you've read my other thread about 'CSL front PDC' then you'll see that it's not the first time I've phoned the £1 per min BMW Information line, only to be told things that aren't quite true. Thankfully when I went to see the CSL, BMW had not punched holes in the £3k front bumper to install PDC so it was a mistake on their part. Same obviously happened here.

As for 'I've never heard of any car manufacturer to do a 'half' facelift before doing a full facelift, despite what you might believe, you're not the font of knowledge when it comes to all things automotive. This is actually quite a common thing for manufactures to do, another good example will be the Mk2 VW Golf. They did a facelift called the '90 spec' where lots of things were changed e.g windows, doors, small/big bumpers etc etc. And there are MANY examples of cross over cars with 'half' facelifts from the factory.

I appreciate what everyones saying, and this doesn't appear to be a 'full facelift' but things are not always as black and white as you make out.

One last thing - people can make 'mistakes' - we're not all blessed with the knowlege that you have

Originally Posted by shimmy

Funtime, good luck with the sale and the new CSL

You'll love that CSL I guarantee.

Cheers Shimmy - Can't wait

Originally Posted by outnumbered

Agree with the posts above... this isn't a "facelift" car in the way that word is usually applied to M3s, the boot handle is a dead giveaway. The BMW information line are wrong, it would not have come with LED rears, they're a retrofit.

There was a very early change in 2001 which made the strut brace and adjustable seats standard equipment, but that isn't what people usually refer to as a "facelift" because almost all the cars have these.

Apart from that, it looks like a nice one.

Thanks Outnumbered, I think your correct - I'll adjust the advert accordingly.

To be honest it didn't bother me whether it was facelift or not, I just went on the spec and condition at the time