Super sprint Manifold (RHD)

[flatout]

Before i plunge and buy one new , thought i'd put this up after seeing a similar add.

Please PM me with pics and condition details if possible.

Rgds
Rich

[glendog74]

You'll be lucky mate - TMS have not been selling these very long yet so unlikely a seconds will turn up?

Linky: Manifold

[shimmy]

quite a few would give them a go inc me i think but the price at £1600-£1800 is just far to high

i think id give Cams a go forst at that price

[Dan]

Realistically what gains are they meant to or do give?

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by Dan

Realistically what gains are they meant to or do give?

Hopefully John will be on soon to explain.

There are lots of LHD stepped data from the US to show gains with mapping on M3 of 10-20 bhp even more

John has some dyno data on the Uk version sold exclusively thru TMS

My concerns are the price for the UK one and i am not sure how the data stacks up as no independant data available and when you spend £1600-£1800 you want something back!

Maybe John would give me one for free and i can get an independant dyno check before and after.......say ill pay £100 per bhp gained

[glendog74]

Originally Posted by shimmy

My concerns are the price for the UK one and i am not sure how the data stacks up as no independant data available and when you spend £1600-£1800 you want something back!

Reluctantly, i find myself agreeing with Shim again!

My concern would also be the cost outlay versus power gain returns. Presumably this bit of kit works best with a full exhaust setup and ECU remap - not cheap as we all know.

I already have the full SS exhaust solution minus race cats so it is an option, but at £1600 - a rather costly one. I might be persuaded in a discounted group buy of course... (Cue ridiculously long and protracted Manifold Group Buy thread!)

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by glendog74

Reluctantly, i find myself agreeing with Shim again!

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Originally Posted by glendog74

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[mattCSLnut]

Originally Posted by shimmy

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Group Buy !!!

[The Gorilla]

Hi,

Guys, I think your overlooking some
key points here.

1/ The North American Cars [E46 M3] have the Cats
just below the header, hence they are around
10-12 bhp down as oppossed a Euro car.
ie] there rated at 333, as oppossed the infamous 343.

Some NA cars have posted gains as large as
15 BHP with Euro headers and Cats, you go figure !!!

The Super sprint header will give no more than
8-10 BHP in the real world, if really lucky.

8-10 S/S gain if lucky, plus the 10 BHP that your
North American Cousins are down and hey,
20 BHP gain on Headers, Hello.

F1 has had good results and success with stepped
Headers, but the exhaust scavenge process of a
F1 Car, combined with the fact that there
are No Cats to impeade the exhaust Gas
out flow once its exiting, has more to do
with the results than a larger pipe into a
larger pipe theory.

BMW Motorsport actually make a large bore
Header for the S54 engine, which was of
course made for LHD only.

KK Automobile do a very good Header which
I think is around 1350 euro for a engine
upto 400 BHP plus.
Again these are for left hand drive cars
so the steering would be a problem.

Why not do a Group Buy of say 5 or more
of the KK S54 Header, and I am sure Sven
will make a RHD, as this will also give them
the pattern from which to be able to sell
others.

And if your Normally aspirated S54 ever makes
more that 420 BHP you can call BMW Motorsport
and tell them how its done.

http://www.kk-automobile.de/html/kruemmer.html

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by The Gorilla

Hi,


And if your Normally aspirated S54 ever makes
more that 420 BHP you can call BMW Motorsport
and tell them how its done.

http://www.kk-automobile.de/html/kruemmer.html

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id be happy with 380bhp