The dead engine

**Mark CSL** · 03-07-2009, 12:32 AM

This is the dead engine after it was taken out my CSL

NZ_M3 · 03-07-2009, 02:10 AM

Such a shame those have to go back to BMW AG ... would have made a rather nice coffee table stand.

M3_CSL · 03-07-2009, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NZ_M3

Such a shame those have to go back to BMW AG ... would have made a rather nice coffee table stand.

Tom,

That's exactly what comes to my mind too

Great minds think alike, that's all I can say

cheers,

richie

**alexk** · 03-07-2009, 09:38 AM

Mark, what went wrong with the engine ?

**glendog74** · 03-07-2009, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NZ_M3

would have made a rather nice coffee table stand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3_CSL

That's exactly what comes to my mind too

Great minds think alike, that's all I can say

You two really are the CSL Register 'Anoraks'...

**Mark CSL** · 03-07-2009, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexk

Mark, what went wrong with the engine ?

It started ratteling the cam followers were not smooth and when the head came off the bores had a lip in the bores

plug · 06-07-2009, 09:33 PM

You mean were the camshafts are usually laid on is worn uneven? Ouch!
New head and camshafts?
Were you using the recommended oil.
Lets hope you get it fixed soon.

MichCSL · 06-07-2009, 09:59 PM

How is that possible? Does this happening a lot with a CSL or not?

**Mark CSL** · 06-07-2009, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plug

You mean were the camshafts are usually laid on is worn uneven? Ouch!
New head and camshafts?
Were you using the recommended oil.
Lets hope you get it fixed soon.

Bmw fitted a new engine in the end with the ware in the bores and the head needing changed

So all i have to do now is run it in for 1200 miles

I only used the Recommended Oil and it was serviced on time

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichCSL

How is that possible? Does this happening a lot with a CSL or not?

I am the only one i know of so lets hope it is not a fault that is going to happen more often

**alexk** · 06-07-2009, 10:47 PM

Hi Mark,

How often did you change the oil ?
I change the oil in mine every 5k kms.

Let me share an official response from bmw for such cases...

Customer observation:
- Idling complaints: idling erratic, vibrations, shaking.
- Engine misfires while the vehicle is in motion.
- Starting difficulties, traced back to "jamming" HVC elements and thus poor or no
compression.
- Engine warning lamp lit.
- Engine damage after start attempt.

Service observation:
- VANOS faults stored in the fault code memory of the DME control unit.
- During an engine oil service, it is found that the engine oil has thickened/formed into sludge.
- Camshafts worn.
- As a result of stiff camshafts, there is a possibility of mechanical damage to the valve gear (especially
during an engine start).

Vehicles concerned:
All E-series with petrol engine without option ... (maintenance interval level 2 coding = oil service interval
12,000 km)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cause
Poor fuel quality promotes faster oil ageing and thus a thickening of the engine oil
(oil sludging, predominantly in the cylinder head and sump).

One from the tasks that need to be performed ->

- Change the coding to option .... (maintenance interval level 2 coding = shortening of
oil service interval to 12,000 km):

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06-07-2009, 10:47 PM	#10
alexk Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,786 Casino cash: $29971	Hi Mark, How often did you change the oil ? I change the oil in mine every 5k kms. Let me share an official response from bmw for such cases... Customer observation: - Idling complaints: idling erratic, vibrations, shaking. - Engine misfires while the vehicle is in motion. - Starting difficulties, traced back to "jamming" HVC elements and thus poor or no compression. - Engine warning lamp lit. - Engine damage after start attempt. Service observation: - VANOS faults stored in the fault code memory of the DME control unit. - During an engine oil service, it is found that the engine oil has thickened/formed into sludge. - Camshafts worn. - As a result of stiff camshafts, there is a possibility of mechanical damage to the valve gear (especially during an engine start). Vehicles concerned: All E-series with petrol engine without option ... (maintenance interval level 2 coding = oil service interval 12,000 km) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cause Poor fuel quality promotes faster oil ageing and thus a thickening of the engine oil (oil sludging, predominantly in the cylinder head and sump). One from the tasks that need to be performed -> - Change the coding to option .... (maintenance interval level 2 coding = shortening of oil service interval to 12,000 km): __________________ www.clubcsl.com - I am a BMW Motorsport fan ! My youtube channel is here

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