SB CSL Rybrook Warwick

Pooky · 02-02-2012, 06:50 PM

Was at Rybrook Warwick today to sort front brake discs and in the 5 mintues I was there an SB CSL parked next to me in the carpark. Had an aftermarket exhaust on it too.

northernjim · 02-02-2012, 06:59 PM

Common as muck those SB CSL's

Obv not me tho......

tex · 08-04-2012, 05:59 PM

Ages since I was on here. I think that was me, it was day I sold her. Swapped for a 1M - not a patch on the CSL...

Yanto · 08-04-2012, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tex

Ages since I was on here. I think that was me, it was day I sold her. Swapped for a 1M - not a patch on the CSL...

Interesting, care to expand mate ?

tex · 10-04-2012, 09:44 PM

My thoughts on why it's not a patch are very subjective but here goes...

The CSL was obviously a much more expensive car when new and so feels much more special. The big thing for me is you always new you were sat in something special - carbon, great seats, the steering wheel etc.

The seats are the same as ones in a 335i I had 3 years ago, they don't hold you well and are too high up. The steering wheel is too fat.

It feels a lot less 'planted' than the CSL, it feels a little stiffer yet rolls more - probably exaggerated by the seating issue above.

It can struggle to get it's power down - in part this is down to the relatively huge amount of torque it has (but then I wonder how a new M5 gets any power down!) but also because as soon as it hits a bump the rear wheels skip and break traction. This obviously has an impact on the handling point above.

I actually miss the SMG.

It does less MPG than the CSL.

It doesn't sound like a CSL!!

On the plus side, it's well equipped and much better for the high miles I do, it does have a good exhaust note (no induction noise though), it's faster in a straight line than the CSL and the huge torque means it's effortlessly fast.

Basically I had to replace the CSL (it had done 90k miles and it was starting to show it) with something that would cope with quite high miles, was practical (seats 4 and can get a bike inside it), and didn't cost too much to run. All this ruled out a current M3, a GTR, a Cayman R and a GT3. It's also nice that it is quite rare (450 in the UK) and has a thriving forum.

So that's my thoughts, I'm sure there are people who would disagree (and they have probably never owned a CSL!).

GTR · 11-04-2012, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tex

My thoughts on why it's not a patch are very subjective but here goes...

The CSL was obviously a much more expensive car when new and so feels much more special. The big thing for me is you always new you were sat in something special - carbon, great seats, the steering wheel etc.

The seats are the same as ones in a 335i I had 3 years ago, they don't hold you well and are too high up. The steering wheel is too fat.

It feels a lot less 'planted' than the CSL, it feels a little stiffer yet rolls more - probably exaggerated by the seating issue above.

It can struggle to get it's power down - in part this is down to the relatively huge amount of torque it has (but then I wonder how a new M5 gets any power down!) but also because as soon as it hits a bump the rear wheels skip and break traction. This obviously has an impact on the handling point above.

I actually miss the SMG.

It does less MPG than the CSL.

It doesn't sound like a CSL!!

On the plus side, it's well equipped and much better for the high miles I do, it does have a good exhaust note (no induction noise though), it's faster in a straight line than the CSL and the huge torque means it's effortlessly fast.

Basically I had to replace the CSL (it had done 90k miles and it was starting to show it) with something that would cope with quite high miles, was practical (seats 4 and can get a bike inside it), and didn't cost too much to run. All this ruled out a current M3, a GTR, a Cayman R and a GT3. It's also nice that it is quite rare (450 in the UK) and has a thriving forum.

So that's my thoughts, I'm sure there are people who would disagree (and they have probably never owned a CSL!).

Seems like your missing the CSL big time.

tex · 16-04-2012, 07:22 PM

Yeah, I am, but life moves on. The 1M is OK as a daily driver and I have an Exige to have fun in...

02-02-2012, 06:50 PM	#1
Pooky S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 187 Casino cash: $11992	SB CSL Rybrook Warwick Was at Rybrook Warwick today to sort front brake discs and in the 5 mintues I was there an SB CSL parked next to me in the carpark. Had an aftermarket exhaust on it too.

02-02-2012, 06:59 PM	#2
northernjim Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: lancashire Posts: 2,082 Casino cash: $20572	Common as muck those SB CSL's Obv not me tho...... __________________

08-04-2012, 05:59 PM	#3
tex S2 - Picking it up Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 45 Casino cash: $1401	Ages since I was on here. I think that was me, it was day I sold her. Swapped for a 1M - not a patch on the CSL...

10-04-2012, 09:44 PM	#5
tex S2 - Picking it up Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 45 Casino cash: $1401	My thoughts on why it's not a patch are very subjective but here goes... The CSL was obviously a much more expensive car when new and so feels much more special. The big thing for me is you always new you were sat in something special - carbon, great seats, the steering wheel etc. The seats are the same as ones in a 335i I had 3 years ago, they don't hold you well and are too high up. The steering wheel is too fat. It feels a lot less 'planted' than the CSL, it feels a little stiffer yet rolls more - probably exaggerated by the seating issue above. It can struggle to get it's power down - in part this is down to the relatively huge amount of torque it has (but then I wonder how a new M5 gets any power down!) but also because as soon as it hits a bump the rear wheels skip and break traction. This obviously has an impact on the handling point above. I actually miss the SMG. It does less MPG than the CSL. It doesn't sound like a CSL!! On the plus side, it's well equipped and much better for the high miles I do, it does have a good exhaust note (no induction noise though), it's faster in a straight line than the CSL and the huge torque means it's effortlessly fast. Basically I had to replace the CSL (it had done 90k miles and it was starting to show it) with something that would cope with quite high miles, was practical (seats 4 and can get a bike inside it), and didn't cost too much to run. All this ruled out a current M3, a GTR, a Cayman R and a GT3. It's also nice that it is quite rare (450 in the UK) and has a thriving forum. So that's my thoughts, I'm sure there are people who would disagree (and they have probably never owned a CSL!).

16-04-2012, 07:22 PM	#7
tex S2 - Picking it up Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 45 Casino cash: $1401	Yeah, I am, but life moves on. The 1M is OK as a daily driver and I have an Exige to have fun in...