Fookin students....

[Yanto]

Been watching this today - wot a bunch of cnuts (though to be fair, the main troublemakers look like a minor group of anarchists). Fair play to the rozzers for keeping a cool head whilst these muppets are giving out.

I had debts post-uni that I had to pay off.....why should these fookers expect the taxpayer to foot the cost of their fees ??? This additional cost to them is not repayable until they are earning a decent wage.....

Unbelievable......winds me right up.

[shimmy]

i believe fundamentally they are right and the country should foot the majority not the minority of the bills for higher education..What is disagree with is the massive increase in the past 10 year in full time degree courses for fookin hairdressng and dog shampooing.

These feckers should be in an job with a day release and kleave the degree courses to those that have a brain cell

just coz they get 5 GCSE levels and 3 A levels they think they iz clever

[J13NY S]

I wouldn’t even give them dole money, not one feckin penny!!

You can’t beat an Irish man for telling it how it is, slightly of topic but heard this on the radio this morning & it made me laugh, apparently they randomly asked him his views on the current economic crisis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koY6kXhQDQo

[sailorbaz]

The country needs more of these people but why is he broadcasting from America? Made his fortune and fooked off?

[csl_mba]

SCUMBAG!

[glendog74]

Fookers! I have only just heard of what happened yesterday

I'm behind anyone protesting peacefully and making their point known but these demonstrations are simply taking the piss (or throwing it). It's about time that Police were allowed to be firmer in their response with these cnuts and not having to do so with one hand tied behind their backs or worried about litigation all of the time.

It's sadly ironic that they also desecrated the Cenotaph and a statue of Churchill - both reminders of how many millions have died to allow the free and democratic nation that we all live in today. Then there was the attack on the Royal car last night...

Makes me wanna move abroad.

[Yanto]

Originally Posted by shimmy

i believe fundamentally they are right and the country should foot the majority not the minority of the bills for higher education..What is disagree with is the massive increase in the past 10 year in full time degree courses for fookin hairdressng and dog shampooing.

These feckers should be in an job with a day release and kleave the degree courses to those that have a brain cell

just coz they get 5 GCSE levels and 3 A levels they think they iz clever

Agreed with daft course comment Shim, but am pretty sure the proposal isnt suggesting these guys find £x K before they start the course, it works on a pay back scale once a salary level post college has been achieved (similar to student loan, but appreciate the suggested scenario isnt voluntary !)..

So its likely all the Ba (Hons) Dog Shampooers wont have to pay back anything ! Meanwhile those who excel in a profession will soon have the means to pay back..

The fees themselves should be sufficient motivation to help "half hearted" student candidates decide whether they should go to college, and if so ensure they select a useful course - that would help weed out sub par candidates and clean up the curriculum of daft courses.

The counter arguement is why do these people think that it is ok for the smart guy doing well professionally (but didnt excel academically and didnt go to college) now have to fund others education through his/her taxes..

The volume of hand outs in his country just winds me up in general - I think its about time some bold decisions like this (and income benefit changes) are made...painful yes, but it'll blow over and become accepted...

The complete lack of respect for monuments and buildings makes me sick - a great advert for the supposed intelligent yoof of today all feeling brave after a morning on special brew and other "stuff"

[shimmy]

I think this decision is bad though for the country

We should be encouraging people to further education not showing them it will make them in debt for 20-30 years 9caveat is the courses should be real and 50% of the Universities should be turned back into colleges and day release centres)

i know we all have to make sacrifices in these hard times but true degree students arnt one = i mean imagine if school burdened everybody with a 15 year debt of say £5k a year totalling £75k and you have 3 kids so thats £225k, would you vote for that?

You might say well students choose to go on to further education (not for much longer if they come from a poorer background)

WHAT THIS DOESNT DO is encourage the better students and discourage the not so clever ones, but it does concourage the richer students and discourages the poorer ones.

We will be fooked in a few years to come and our only asset of an educated and useful engineering class will be gone

[Yanto]

Originally Posted by shimmy

I think this decision is bad though for the country

We should be encouraging people to further education not showing them it will make them in debt for 20-30 years 9caveat is the courses should be real and 50% of the Universities should be turned back into colleges and day release centres)

i know we all have to make sacrifices in these hard times but true degree students arnt one = i mean imagine if school burdened everybody with a 15 year debt of say £5k a year totalling £75k and you have 3 kids so thats £225k, would you vote for that?

You might say well students choose to go on to further education (not for much longer if they come from a poorer background)

WHAT THIS DOESNT DO is encourage the better students and discourage the not so clever ones, but it does concourage the richer students and discourages the poorer ones.

We will be fooked in a few years to come and our only asset of an educated and useful engineering class will be gone

Nope, wouldnt vote for that - agree that all should have the right to free education until 18..

Not sure of the answer mate.....maybe a better development of a bursary / sponsorship / scholarship model through improved connection of world of industry and the world of education......for sure, fees are a millstone for an individual but could be a cheap way to recruit by locking smart kids into your Firm at 18 (pre-college) by covering this cost for them. You would weep if you knew the cost of putting a Grad through a typical in-house training Programme, particularly in this industry - the suggested fee increases would be reasonably palatable for a professional org if they had a guaranteed pipeline of talent...

Anyway, its my last day of hols, so I think I'll head off to the pub

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by Yanto

So its likely all the Ba (Hons) Dog Shampooers wont have to pay back anything ! Meanwhile those who excel in a profession will soon have the means to pay back..

another reason why its just badly thought out!