First Trackday

[Chad]

Just signed up to do my first track day October ,,?? Would you recommend new brake disc with pads , or better to just use the old oem disc I have with new pads . ,, also will do brake fluid,... Will old disc ‘s be up to the job with a novice?? Also Csl wheels or best to use std m3 wheels and tyres , cheeping on tyres etc,, Any other tip welcome. Chad

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by Chad

Just signed up to do my first track day October ,,?? Would you recommend new brake disc with pads , or better to just use the old oem disc I have with new pads . ,, also will do brake fluid,... Will old disc ‘s be up to the job with a novice?? Also Csl wheels or best to use std m3 wheels and tyres , cheeping on tyres etc,, Any other tip welcome. Chad

Brake fluid - Castrol SRF - MUST Change, or you will get brake fade, which at best will mean restricted laps after a heart-stopping moment (when pedal goes to floor) or at worst an expensive off.
Pads - Pagid RS29 all round - See above.
Discs - Kill existing ones. Standard ones should last if heat managed.
Tyres - Go with the ones Billy has on 18" standard BMW M3 wheels. They're cheap (especially going down to 18s) and very grippy (make sure you monitor pressures to ensure they don't overheat).

Don't trail brake or brake gently for long distances or you will overheat the brakes. Keep the braking hard and short.

The chassis is a peach, you will have an amazing time . Which track?

[phoenixcsl]

As above 100%, standard M3 / CSL brakes are chocolate!

Castrol SRF is mega, I use that myself, expensive though!

RS29 are brilliant, if not Ferodo DS1.11 which is what I use in my BBK on the CSL now, they are superb too.

The CSL is so much fun on track, the chassis is superb and always feels so planted, what tyres you planning to use?

If you are doing loads of track days a square setup is good, though I still like the car on 19's tbh

[Chad]

Thanks guys. Will definitely do brake fluid,, was toying with useing my original 19 wheels that came on the car std m3 type ,,with some part used pilot sport still have a good tread 5or 6 mm ,,, they just a couple of years old ,,to save csl wheels the abuse ,, looking like I’d better up the pads then : not sure budget will rid to some proper cups at the moment,, track Anglesey 2oct

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by Chad

Thanks guys. Will definitely do brake fluid,, was toying with useing my original 19 wheels that came on the car std m3 type ,,with some part used pilot sport still have a good tread 5or 6 mm ,,, they just a couple of years old ,,to save csl wheels the abuse ,, looking like I’d better up the pads then : not sure budget will rid to some proper cups at the moment,, track Anglesey 2oct

19" tyres are expensive, so just go with the Pilot Sports. They are okay on track, but won't offer the grip or longevity of the Cups (by that I mean, they will overheat and go "off" sooner as well as not offering the same grip levels). You will probably get 4-5 laps each outing (before a cooling period will be required), which is about what the brakes will do as well .

I thought you had the 18" OEM M3 wheels, where the Zestino tyres Billy uses are relatively cheap (just over £130 each).

[Chad]

Dam Just checked tyres , they are contisportcont5 ssr255/35r19y 6mm tread on them,, ??any body used these and what are they like...they Came off my lads merc ,, seem to remember track experience I went on with my younger lad, c63 s used contisport. And seemed ok ??? Trying to save some pennies as I guess they will be trashed after,, was planning to fit them on bmw 10 double spoke wheels I got on car ,same size rear tire ,,

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by Chad

Dam Just checked tyres , they are contisportcont5 ssr255/35r19y 6mm tread on them,, ??any body used these and what are they like...they Came off my lads merc ,, seem to remember track experience I went on with my younger lad, c63 s used contisport. And seemed ok ??? Trying to save some pennies as I guess they will be trashed after,, was planning to fit them on bmw 10 double spoke wheels I got on car ,same size rear tire ,,

You'll be sliding all over the place .

They are VERY pressure sensitive, so will feel really boaty with too much air in.

Had these on a mate's Z4M at the 'ring (as that was what were on the car when he bought it ), and they felt like they were trying to kill us until the pressures we right.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by Mike R

You'll be sliding all over the place .

They are VERY pressure sensitive, so will feel really boaty with too much air in.

Had these on a mate's Z4M at the 'ring (as that was what were on the car when he bought it ), and they felt like they were trying to kill us until the pressures we right.

thanks mike,guess them tyres will have to do for a spare tire /wheels Depending on funds will think about a set of proper cups ,, or just two new rear pss on csl wheels Already getting Expensive hobby this track day lark

[phoenixcsl]

Originally Posted by Chad

Dam Just checked tyres , they are contisportcont5 ssr255/35r19y 6mm tread on them,, ??any body used these and what are they like...they Came off my lads merc ,, seem to remember track experience I went on with my younger lad, c63 s used contisport. And seemed ok ??? Trying to save some pennies as I guess they will be trashed after,, was planning to fit them on bmw 10 double spoke wheels I got on car ,same size rear tire ,,

You'll be fine on those, I'd drop the pressures out of them and run them at something like 30psi hot.

You won't have the same grip as Cups or Cup2, and they will probably go off quicker, but you'll still have fun, just trash them and go home happy!

[Chad]

Originally Posted by phoenixcsl

You'll be fine on those, I'd drop the pressures out of them and run them at something like 30psi hot.

You won't have the same grip as Cups or Cup2, and they will probably go off quicker, but you'll still have fun, just trash them and go home happy!

thanks for advice. I will get these put on the wheels and try them this wk ,, see how they feel at 30 psi” ish. Hopefully get some new pilot sport or cups Really didn’t want to spend a fortune 1st track day. But also didn’t want to be on the edge, will do castrol srf brake fluid this wk ,, been looking at pads dam expensive ,, front and rear. Doesn’t seem any change from £500 Don’t think I’ll be doing these ,, ma have to just run normal new Textar street pads I already have this time, bed them in this wk with new fluid,see how they feel as noted other post don’t think I’ll be going for a lap record