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[outnumbered]

Has a test at Bedford West Circuit of the CSL (a car from BMW's heritage collection) against a new Evo X, on the basis that they're "about the same price these days - £27K".

The CSL's ultimate lap time seems a bit disappointing at 1m27.8, which is 2s slower than they managed in an E90 M3. Usual complaints about the standard brakes. I was a bit surprised as I'd have thought the CSL should be pretty close to the E90 ?

The EVO was over 1s quicker, but they do concede that the CSL was more fun.

[shane@mbtech]

Originally Posted by outnumbered

Has a test at Bedford West Circuit of the CSL (a car from BMW's heritage collection) against a new Evo X, on the basis that they're "about the same price these days - £27K".

The CSL's ultimate lap time seems a bit disappointing at 1m27.8, which is 2s slower than they managed in an E90 M3. Usual complaints about the standard brakes. I was a bit surprised as I'd have thought the CSL should be pretty close to the E90 ?

The EVO was over 1s quicker, but they do concede that the CSL was more fun.

The Evo x standard does feel boring, the standard Csl feels much better
But putting coilovers on the x and good geo mdkes a huge difference, where as the Csl on coilovers and geo felt much the same but gripped better if you get where I'm coming from, the Csl out the box is a great great car, the x however needs more tweaks to feel as good. But once tweaked they are pretty good.

I was sorely tempted by an e90 but my x came up at the right price




What model x was it?

[need4speed]

What model x was it?

EVO X RS 360

[s.mac]

i've driven the palmer sport M3's at Bedford and they aren't a patch on the CSL , they dont come close

[AlexGTT]

Also, it wasn't on the correct rubber. Not a Cup in sight and that would make at least 2 secs round there. Considering it's standard fitment they really should test it on the right rubber.

For some reason Evo completely reject (and always have) the fitment of Cups on a CSL but love them on a GT3/RS? What's that all about?

[niall1]

Originally Posted by AlexGTT

Also, it wasn't on the correct rubber. Not a Cup in sight and that would make at least 2 secs round there. Considering it's standard fitment they really should test it on the right rubber.

For some reason Evo completely reject (and always have) the fitment of Cups on a CSL but love them on a GT3/RS? What's that all about?

Would than not warrent a barage of emails suggesting that they should try an 'original' car with cups? That would cut a second or two off the lap time..

[weyzi]

Originally Posted by s.mac

i've driven the palmer sport M3's at Bedford and they aren't a patch on the CSL , they dont come close

agree i drove the m3 at palmer sport and not a patch on CSL

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by outnumbered

Has a test at Bedford West Circuit of the CSL (a car from BMW's heritage collection) against a new Evo X, on the basis that they're "about the same price these days - £27K".

The CSL's ultimate lap time seems a bit disappointing at 1m27.8, which is 2s slower than they managed in an E90 M3. Usual complaints about the standard brakes. I was a bit surprised as I'd have thought the CSL should be pretty close to the E90 ?

The EVO was over 1s quicker, but they do concede that the CSL was more fun.

Just found this old thread, Evo CSL 1m 27.4 compared to my best time today of 1m 21.4 secs. I think the AP brakes make no difference as you oly do 2 fast laps so no issue of brake cooling, but I am guessing the suspension upgrade will help grip and braking.

[outnumbered]

That's in the same ballpark as Evo have for the F430 Scud or GT3RS... so either you are a driving god Shimmy, or the Evo guys are not as good as they make out !

[shimmy]

Well you all know the answer to that question


The are crap, obviously and most here would slaughter their poxy times