F80 m3

[glendog74]

Loving this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=29042

[alexk]

It looks amazing.
And I think it's back to being interesting (unlike the E92 M3 - please don't start with the Schirmer E92 M3s that are faster than a factory BMW MS E92 M3 GT2).

I am looking forward to drive this car.
I am sure it will be stunning.

Well done BMW M !

[DazBlackCSL]

Originally Posted by glendog74

Loving this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=29042

Originally Posted by alexk

It looks amazing.
And I think it's back to being interesting (unlike the E92 M3 - please don't start with the Schirmer E92 M3s that are faster than a factory BMW MS E92 M3 GT2).

I am looking forward to drive this car.
I am sure it will be stunning.

Well done BMW M !

+1 boys totally agree .. And it's still an M3 not an M4 !

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by alexk

It looks amazing.
And I think it's back to being interesting (unlike the E92 M3 - please don't start with the Schirmer E92 M3s that are faster than a factory BMW MS E92 M3 GT2)!

Alex,
The Schirmer cars are faster, but if you saw one up close, you'd see why - they're not something you would want to live with, they're dedicated track cars, being completely gutted and stripped out, so are over 250kg lighter than a standard car. Imagine what a weapon a CSL would be if you could remove 250kg .

[shane@mbtech]

Originally Posted by Mike R

Alex,
The Schirmer cars are faster, but if you saw one up close, you'd see why - they're not something you would want to live with, they're dedicated track cars, being completely gutted and stripped out, so are over 250kg lighter than a standard car. Imagine what a weapon a CSL would be if you could remove 250kg .

not something you would want to live with, dedicated track car, being completely gutted and stripped out

[outnumbered]

Looks good. How does it compare for size with an E39 M5 I wonder?

[GregorJP]

Is it confirmed that there will be a CSL version? If so, I would be inclined to stick an order in straight away and worry later about how to pay for it. Based on the spec and the looks, I'm already in love.

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by lawsy

not something you would want to live with, dedicated track car, being completely gutted and stripped out

I agree, but what it the does to the speed of the car is phenomenal - just look at the Japanese CSL that Digi posted up clips of - it has just done a a 58s lap of Tsubuka (a short 1.2 mile circuit) - albeit with changing from the SMG to a Quaife sequential 'box (and stripping every single thing out of the car and adding loads of aero - similar to what Schirmer does to their cars ). To put that into perspective, a standard CSL does 1:06

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ngfp...t8YeR4zYNpW3Xw

The point I was making is that when you do such drastic mods to a car, it is not unexpected for them to be faster than the full weight cars that the manufacturers can produce.

[shane@mbtech]

I'm on your side Mike

Originally Posted by Mike R

I agree, but what it the does to the speed of the car is phenomenal - just look at the Japanese CSL that Digi posted up clips of - it has just done a a 58s lap of Tsubuka (a short 1.2 mile circuit) - albeit with changing from the SMG to a Quaife sequential 'box (and stripping every single thing out of the car and adding loads of aero - similar to what Schirmer does to their cars ). To put that into perspective, a standard CSL does 1:06

The point I was making is that when you do such drastic mods to a car, it is not unexpected for them to be faster than the full weight cars that the manufacturers can produce.

[AlexGTT]

Originally Posted by alexk

It looks amazing.
And I think it's back to being interesting (unlike the E92 M3 - please don't start with the Schirmer E92 M3s that are faster than a factory BMW MS E92 M3 GT2).

I am looking forward to drive this car.
I am sure it will be stunning.

Well done BMW M !

E90/92 M3 was a great car Alex, just too heavy. The engine was epic, true M style rev the knackers off it epic. Responded well to a tweak, easy 450/460 bhp. Also last N/A M car.

Best thing about the F30? They've finally realised it's weight problem. At last the weight is coming down! Not enough but it's the right direction.