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Old 11-09-2014, 12:45 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by TonyR View Post
A GT3 doesn't - my friend had his 997 Gen II and it destroyed its brakes, and even with replacement Alcons was still crap. He had no end of woes, and in comparison the car was really soft.

The GTS is a good road/track compromise out the box, presumably to make it work at the Ring reasonably. If you intend to use it track only, then it doesn't take much to get it a lot faster.

What is good is I beat the hell out of the car over the two days and went home with no issues. Prior to that the car did 4k miles, 4 heavy trackdays and used 1 set of discs, 2 sets of pads and 1 set of tyres. Not bad going really.

Key thing is every mile is really enjoyable, as it was in my CSL. It isn't a race, and tbh one of the quickest things out there was a MkII golf!!

I was having fun every minute, and that's all that really counts. It is a mega car and lovely to own and drive, as was the CSL.

If you think a CSL was approx £60k, to get to the spec of a GTS you would add cage, proper seats, harnesses, exhaust, brakes, aero, engine work and suspension. Adding components of the same quality as those in the GTS and you are looking at around £25k done - makes it £85k. GTS was £115k, but they are 10 years apart so you can't make a direct comparison. The GTS is still more expensive, but the value of the mods is preserved (you get your money back) which you don't on a modded CSL.

I paid £89k for mine with 1900 miles - basically a new car. It is unlikely to go down much, if at all, with only 8 in the UK. Not quite so silly when you look at it that way, even if the performance was identical.

It's like the GTR tuned vs Nismo debate. Yes, you could build a faster E92 track car for less money, of course you can. So what.

It's nice to get something out the box that is pretty good. Shame BMW didn't do more, but then it leaves me with room to play

I wasn't looking to get into the price vs csl debate Tony, its just you had your racing book excuse book out in your first post, so I was wondering why for the price of the GTS was it as bad as you were making out in the post. Judging by your driving and times on that vid I can now see why you were soo much faster in your GTR
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