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breeze 29-11-2009 01:04 PM

Orientation of Performance Friction discs
 
I'm in the process of fitting new Performance Friction discs to my car to replace the AP items that came with the AP kit.

Does anybody know which way the slots in the disc should be facing?

Nothing in the box to say which way although the APs that came off 'faced into the pad' rather than 'alongside' it if that makes sense...

Discs are the two piece slotted items here:
http://www.performancefrictionbrakes.com.au/products.php?pageId=42

Any help much appreciated!

3wheels3 29-11-2009 01:33 PM

They seem to have left/right product codes from your link

shimmy 29-11-2009 01:35 PM

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/sho...highlight=disc

grooves face opposite to AP discs

at the top they are ponting back towards the callpiers on the front

shimmy 29-11-2009 01:47 PM

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...rontbrakes.jpg

Nords 29-11-2009 04:50 PM

That's it Shimmy, same as mine!

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...Ps_dunlops.jpg

:thumbs:

northernjim 29-11-2009 04:56 PM

you can have the grooves facing which ever way you like as long as the vanes inside the discs are facing the right way....

shimmy 29-11-2009 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northernjim (Post 36338)
you can have the grooves facing which ever way you like as long as the vanes inside the discs are facing the right way....

not a lot of help that comment NJ as firstly unless you tell us which way the viens are meant to point;)

and a misleading answer tbh as the discs in question the grooves should only go one way as they are fixed to the veins:birdman:



:hahaha:

northernjim 29-11-2009 05:39 PM

I know it was a bit misleading :hahaha::clown:


what I mean is that the vanes inside the discs are there to cool the discs down, and that the airflow thru the vanes should go from the centre of the disc to the outside.... [ which is where you would fit any cooling ducts to the back of your discs]


ballcocks! AP will be better telling you than me- taken from there brake fitting guide -

AP Racing Formula Big Brake Kit Owner’s Manual
P14.070 / issue 1 Page 6 March 2004

DISC ROTATION DIRECTION

It is a popular misconception that the slots on the surface or drillings through a disc
determine the direction of rotation. In truth, for an internally vented disc, the geometry of the
vanes dictates the direction of rotation.

There are two types of ventilated disc design vane types in use:


n Straight

n Curved vane



The straight vane types are non-directional (identifiable because both discs will be listed
under the same part number), and hence can be used on either side of the vehicle.

The curved vane disc, however, is directional. A curved vane disc must be installed with the
vanes running back from the inside to outside diameters in the direction of rotation (see
the figure).
Orientating the disc in this manner creates a centrifugal pump. The rotation of the disc
causes air to be pumped from the centre of the disc, through the vanes, and out through the
outside diameter of the disc. This greatly enhances the disc’s ability to dissipate heat.
That is the important bit....


To aid cooling, some vehicle manufacturers include scoops to direct airflow to the disc
inner diameter. If desired, ducting can also be added to allow the disc to run at optimum
temperature, especially when the vehicle is used for circuit track day events.


http://www.apracing.com/drawings/for...it%20guide.pdf

page 6 of this guide shows this info and a good picture too that i couldn't copy....


northernjim 29-11-2009 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 36339)
not a lot of help that comment NJ as firstly unless you tell us which way the viens are meant to point;)

and a misleading answer tbh as the discs in question the grooves should only go one way as they are fixed to the veins:birdman:



:hahaha:


early AP brakes have the grooves facing one way, later ones they go the other... I meant that you can machine in grooves however you like so long as the vanes inside are going the right way:beer:

TANKSLAPPER 29-11-2009 05:53 PM

HAVE YOU GOT IN THE GROOVE YET ?

I have, nice bottle of Chianti ! !


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