Toyo 888
 

Here are some pix of the toyo 888 i got for Gaz345 for his ring trip
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:thumbs:...I like 888. Would be interested how they perform as there has been mixed comments on them for the CSL.

x2 :thumbs:

The 888R is the control tyre for both TTRS and CTCRC race series, shod onto all sorts of machinery including E30/E36 M3 with between 250 and almost 400bhp as well as Cossies and they seem to work well as long as the cambers/tyre pressures are right so would suggest it's a great budget track-day tyre. Highly recommended as a tyre, not sure how it would handle the extra weight of a CSL though (A race E30 M3 weighs about 1000kgs). Might be worth using a tyre conditioner to keep the temps down for hard 'Ring laps.

Al little feedback for the R888s:
I've had them on the road now for a week on a set of 18" 265/35 + 235/40. When I fitted them it was raining and went out to test them in the wet and I was pretty confident on them. Last weekend I went on a 300 mile run and was pretty impressed with there performance overall. I got speaking to someone in a GT40 and he noticed my R888s and he said that he runs them on his GT3 RS which he tracks and he has been happy with them with no issues, he hasnt tried the Cups so couldn't compare... I've yet to get them on the track and test them to the extremes getting them to optimum temp so will keep you posted.

On track they are wank compared to cups.

I run them on my GT3 as they are a damn cheap tyre for the job. I can do lap after lap of the ring without any problems (6 in a row was the most). They are very pressure sensitive, get them too hot and you'll soon be sliding all over the place. Run them too low though as well and you'll also run into problems.....

The biggest issue I have with them is shear road noise. Cups are far quieter on the road - the toyo's literally howl. If you can stand that then they are a good value tyre at half the price of cups in 18". In 19" I would go cups as the toyo pice is silly, although toyos last longer.

If you find they start to "go off", ie getting slippery, wandering, drop the pressure, they will keep going and going. I normally do my first ring lap, at the end of it the rears moving around. I stop, adjust pressures and keep going. Rest of the day it's fine.

I ran them at the same pressure as I run cups 32 hot and they went off really quickly (2/3 a lap of the 'ring). This was however with 19" cups v 18" 888s so maybe I was at fault. As a road tyre they are great.

All the quick GT3 guys rate hoosiers or cups miles ahead of 888s.

One of the guys I know well had a toyo technician come out with us as we were suffering delam on the tyres. It was determined for us 35psi hot was the optimum temp up front on the gt3 and a couple more on the rear.

Quite possibly they don't work on the csl due to the different weight distribution - but they work fine on the GT3. It's a matter of budget really. I don't think I'd say they're the fastest tyre, but they are far better than any road tyre and in 18" cost the same as one.

Each to their own. If you want premium, avoid them, if you want a set of 18" tyres that are nearly 1/2 the price of the others, they're ok.

Hoosiers (R6s) are effectively a slick, but in a trackday compound allowing you more heat cycles. No they don't work in the wet! :clown:
Cups are great in the dry, don't really work in the wet, and are 1300 a set.
888s give you 95% of a cup, but work in the wet and cost 650 a set.
Depends if you want that last 5% (or can find that last 5%)... and at what price you can affrod