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shane@mbtech 22-11-2009 08:54 PM

Track day instruction, Recommendations???
 
As title really, having only done a handful of trackdays ever, and only 3 in the csl, im going to get some track tuition. I feel I have much much more to gain, but teaching myself has its limits.

Any recommendations on who to get?

All opinions welcome:thumbs:

azrael 22-11-2009 09:03 PM

Mike Wilds http://www.mikewilds.com/racing.html

Sean Edwards http://news.seanedwards.eu/

Both come highly recommended

shimmy 22-11-2009 09:15 PM

For Oulton you will get nobody who teaches like Tim Arnold :thumbs:

Faling that Curly (Dontdobends) is nearly as good :smokin:

terryb 22-11-2009 10:50 PM

Mike Wilds is my reccomend and he certainly knows how to steer a CSL. Last year he won the Britcar in an ex WTCC 320Si Beemer :)

3wheels3 23-11-2009 03:05 AM

There is td @ oulton park 01/12/09 and mike wilds is there doing instructions. Run by opentrack. See opl website.

DazBlackCSL 23-11-2009 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 35938)
For Oulton you will get nobody who teaches like Tim Arnold :thumbs:

Faling that Curly (Dontdobends) is nearly as good :smokin:

:whistle::smt047

CATDT 23-11-2009 10:48 AM

I can also recommend ourselves as your official advertiser ;)
I'm not one for saying me me me, but seeing as you asked it might look odd if I didn't pipe up.

A few of your fellow members have experienced our training - some in more depth than others.

If you'd like to know more information drop me a PM. Otherwise I trust you find the best instruction to meet your objectives :thumbs:

Jo

AlexGTT 23-11-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CATDT (Post 35960)
I can also recommend ourselves as your official advertiser ;)
I'm not one for saying me me me, but seeing as you asked it might look odd if I didn't pipe up.

A few of your fellow members have experienced our training - some in more depth than others.

If you'd like to know more information drop me a PM. Otherwise I trust you find the best instruction to meet your objectives :thumbs:

Jo

I'll add to that. I haven't had personal experience of CATDT instruction but I have enjoyed their company at Nurburgring on two occasions with my friends at GTROC. I can honestly say you could not wish for a more friendly bunch and Colin is one of the best drivers/instructors I've ever seen. His PAX laps at the Ring in a humble Mondeo are the stuff of legend! All my friends who have benefited from CATDT instruction strongly recommend them and I'm certainly booking with them sometime in the New Year.

Radders 23-11-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lawsy (Post 35933)
As title really, having only done a handful of trackdays ever, and only 3 in the csl, im going to get some track tuition. I feel I have much much more to gain, but teaching myself has its limits.

Any recommendations on who to get?

All opinions welcome:thumbs:

i have only used Sean Edwards, his experience is fantastic and if you consider he is competing at a very high level currently i feel its the best option. he got our bmw round oulton in the wet on 888 like it was on slicks, lean't loads from him and will be using his services again.

Curly 23-11-2009 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 35938)
For Oulton you will get nobody who teaches like Tim Arnold :thumbs:

Faling that Curly (Dontdobends) is nearly as good :smokin:

Your such a card shim:blalalala:;)
i will give you a freebe lawsy next time i'm at oulton and save you a couple of sec's mate:thumbs:

shimmy 23-11-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dontdobends (Post 35967)
Your such a card shim:blalalala:;)
i will give you a freebe lawsy next time i'm at oulton and save you a couple of sec's mate:thumbs:

although i can save you the trip as I know Curly's way of saving 2 secs is to put on slicks:thumbs:

mattCSLnut 23-11-2009 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by azrael (Post 35935)
Mike Wilds http://www.mikewilds.com/racing.html

Sean Edwards http://news.seanedwards.eu/

Both come highly recommended

Any of these chaps look after newbes at Brands Hatch ? If not, who does ?

azrael 23-11-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mattCSLnut (Post 35971)
Any of these chaps look after newbes at Brands Hatch ? If not, who does ?

Yep either of them should be able to sort you out.

Or the site sponsor, sorry I was't aware :)

DazBlackCSL 23-11-2009 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mattCSLnut (Post 35971)
Any of these chaps look after newbes at Brands Hatch ? If not, who does ?

You book them directly at a track of your choice.

If your on a normal track day there will be MSV instructors available (Simon Shaw) mate of mine if very good and also The Dunlop Sport Maxx Champion this year he has been doing a fair bit at brands last few weeks.

mattCSLnut 23-11-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DazBlackCSL (Post 35974)
You book them directly at a track of your choice.

If your on a normal track day there will be MSV instructors available (Simon Shaw) mate of mine if very good and also The Dunlop Sport Maxx Champion this year he has been doing a fair bit at brands last few weeks.


COOL ! Thanx for the recommendation :thumbs: I'll look out for him on Thursday. Just hope it doesn't rain :bigcry:... too much

mattCSLnut 23-11-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by azrael (Post 35972)
yep either of them should be able to sort you out.

Or the site sponson, sorry i was't aware :)


thanx :thumbs:

Trawler 23-11-2009 09:12 PM

Can recommend CATDT & will be back for more next year. Tried 3 others & they are by far the best.

shane@mbtech 23-11-2009 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontdobends (Post 35967)
Your such a card shim:blalalala:;)
i will give you a freebe lawsy next time i'm at oulton and save you a couple of sec's mate:thumbs:

Cheers John, I will take you up on your offer, after studying our "oulton dice" many times I can see you can show me the way of the jedi.:thumbs:

spanner 24-11-2009 06:32 PM

One of Tim Arnolds Mates called Howard is pretty local to OUlton & he isn't stupidly expensive - he has been training a pals son this year who has done very well indeed in his first year competing in cars.

I would be happy to give a track day organiser £20 to have a session of instruction from whoever is there - there are quite regularly some top instructors on track days who know the circuit very well

shane@mbtech 24-11-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by spanner (Post 36028)
One of Tim Arnolds Mates called Howard is pretty local to OUlton & he isn't stupidly expensive - he has been training a pals son this year who has done very well indeed in his first year competing in cars.

I would be happy to give a track day organiser £20 to have a session of instruction from whoever is there - there are quite regularly some top instructors on track days who know the circuit very well


Only last year I took the instruction at oulton, I will not divulge who he was, he was ok, but I would not pay him to instruct me. Maybe he is good but I did not really get on with his teaching style, he came across as a bit lost.

It may have been different having him for the full day, maybe.

shimmy 24-11-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lawsy (Post 36036)
Only last year I took the instruction at oulton, I will not divulge who he was, he was ok, but I would not pay him to instruct me. Maybe he is good but I did not really get on with his teaching style, he came across as a bit lost.

It may have been different having him for the full day, maybe.

lawsy, surely the whole point of forums is to tell us who he was, as then we can make decisions with more info :smokin:

you dont have to slander the guy but give us a chance to avoid the muppet:thumbs:

shane@mbtech 24-11-2009 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 36042)
lawsy, surely the whole point of forums is to tell us who he was, as then we can make decisions with more info :smokin:

you dont have to slander the guy but give us a chance to avoid the muppet:thumbs:

Cant remember his name, he may be ok and it may have just been me. But I just got the distinct impression he did not enjoy what he was doing. My business partner said exactly the same thing as we both used him that day.

Hazy 24-11-2009 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanner (Post 36028)
One of Tim Arnolds Mates called Howard is pretty local to OUlton & he isn't stupidly expensive - he has been training a pals son this year who has done very well indeed in his first year competing in cars.

I would be happy to give a track day organiser £20 to have a session of instruction from whoever is there - there are quite regularly some top instructors on track days who know the circuit very well

full days instruction are worth it but bloody expensive....

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 36042)
lawsy, surely the whole point of forums is to tell us who he was, as then we can make decisions with more info :smokin:

you dont have to slander the guy but give us a chance to avoid the muppet:thumbs:

Shimmy, I think his name was????:whistle::hahaha:

shimmy 24-11-2009 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazy (Post 36056)

Shimmy, I think his name was????:whistle::hahaha:

what does it rhyme with?

shane@mbtech 24-11-2009 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 36062)
what does it rhyme with?


I think his wife also teaches.:thumbs:

DuncanR 25-11-2009 11:21 AM

Just did a track day at Bedford on Saturday and used Adam Foster, 3rd last year in FPA Championship, he is hopefully one of the up and coming starts of the future. Bedford is such a good place to "give it the beans" as it has very generous run offs and very little armco ! Give him a go !
www.adam-foster.co.uk

shimmy 25-11-2009 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawsy (Post 36064)
I think his wife also teaches.:thumbs:

still not helping me.................Google husband and wife oulton park driver training and got nothing apart from McVicker?

Curly 26-11-2009 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawsy (Post 35987)
Cheers John, I will take you up on your offer, after studying our "oulton dice" many times I can see you can show me the way of the jedi.:thumbs:

Just give me a bell next time you are going Oulton mate ;)

Gareth Lloyd is the guy if you are spending dosh on instruction at Oulton he's won loads of races there, really nice bloke and a CSL owner :thumbs:

englebert 27-11-2009 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terryb (Post 35940)
Mike Wilds is my reccomend and he certainly knows how to steer a CSL. Last year he won the Britcar in an ex WTCC 320Si Beemer :)

Er, he did?

Great guy though!

I'd recommend Rob Barff, talent wise he has to be one of the fastest drivers in the UK. Not expensive either.
http://www.robbarff.com/html/perform...ver_coach.html

Would also recommend doing a car control course if you want to increase confidence, something like Driver DP.
http://www.driverdp.com/

spanner 27-11-2009 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by englebert (Post 36228)
Er, he did?

Great guy though!

I'd recommend Rob Barff, talent wise he has to be one of the fastest drivers in the UK. Not expensive either.
http://www.robbarff.com/html/perform...ver_coach.html

Would also recommend doing a car control course if you want to increase confidence, something like Driver DP.
http://www.driverdp.com/

Actually, I would totally agree with Rob Barff - easily the best instructing I have ever had - he happened to be at a track day I did a few years ago & I had two sessions with him.

He didn't say much but he drove my car like no-one else had ever done before!! I then then tried to go faster & thought I would impress him again in the afternoon. He then went much faster still! The circuit he taught me at is my fave track in the UK and I raced there a year later & did ok!

My driving came on leaps and bounds after that.

I have had other instruction too but have often found having a chat with someone knowledgeable about the track can help more than having someone sat next to me.

englebert 03-12-2009 10:00 PM

He has a massive advantage being based there, he is invaluable when showing a wet line as it's so different at Silverstone. Of course the circuit will all be changing soon...


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