E92 M3 for a week..so far
 

good afternoon gents :thumbs:

I've been given an E92 M3 as a loaner while my CSL is in the bodyshop, and i must say that so far i am completey un-impressed. to begin with it felt very quick however now i am convinced thats due to how soft and sloppy it is - and we all know how quick a loaner is :hahaha: i had a bit of a tussle up with a 360 spider yesterday afternoon - i was just keeping up on the straights, but corners no hope, and my GF said it felt dangerous at speed compared to the CSL. and needless to say i would have been all over it's ass in the CSL

so those of you that were contemplating the switch IMHO dont bother.

I want my CSL back pronto.

How come some people get an E92 M3 as a courtesy car and I get an Astra Diesel!!! HTF does that one work out?

Good work though! And nice to hear the CSL still feels better!

I had one on order and cancelled it after I was loaned one by my dealer over a weekend. They weren't very impressed when I said I'd rather keep my CSL.

Great car but not as great and I've probably saved myself £25k to fund the purchase and £15-20k depreciation.

We're up to £15k invested into our E92 M3 and have to say other than the engine (475bhp so a huge difference) the rest of it is still far behind a CSL.

But the DSG 'box is a big leap forward imo . . . . . (ok, so it requires NO skill whatsoever to make seamless up and downchanges, but it is mightily impressive all the same)

Wellsway only had diesels in, whilst my badger imprint is removed. Have a 318 version, sob!

they were trying to give me a merc A class, then E class. you just have to keep saying no, i wont accept a lower spec car. i said i pay to keep a CSL on the road, so thats what i want or maybe a Porsche, but only a 911 :hahaha: less than 24hrs later a nice shiney 08 plate M3 delivered :supz:

right decision :thumbs: although the E92 does pull away nicley in 3rd gear from a standstill i found out this morning :whistle:

ok will someone lend me their CSL for a week and take this piece of "built to please the septic’s" shit away :) i hate it - my car is not ready until the end of next week. based on this i cant see myself buying a BMW again other than a CSL

things i hate?
the seat belt thing that passes you the belt, it misses every time
the shit version of warm up lights
the dashboard made with old man Rover style vinyl
the suspension - how come something soo soft can hit every bump in the road and send it straight up you spine
no torch J
its only done 28k but feels old and sloppy
the a/c knob should be the stereo knob
its now full of sand (whoops)



things I like?
It has grunt
Bonnet bulge
Door mirrors
I drive radio display
That fact I didn’t pay 50 odd grand for it

I had one for a day, just made me realise how good the CSL is. There was no involvement - just felt like a passenger aiming it along the road. This will always be a problem for any CSL owner, once you've had a car that is so connected to the road, anything else feels weird. Now that my CSL lives under a nice warm cover in the garage, and only comes out to play when the weather is nice - I have an RS4 for the "normal" stuff, an after a weekend in the CSL, I nearly crash the RS4 on the first corner come monday morning!!

For what the E92 M3 was intended as, it does it very well to be honest. It was never meant to be a CSL replacement - never was and never will be.

I've not had an issue with the seatbelt receiver thing ever - works brilliantly everytime. In fact when I get in the CSL now, I am always forgetting that there's no such thing and I keep waiting for something to pass the seatbelt to me :hahaha::hahaha: :banghead:

The variable steering ratio does take a little bit getting used to (do bear in mind it has a wider range than the fixed steering ratio in the CSL - in fact at its fastest setting it is about 20% quicker than the CSL steering) - but I do find it nicely weighted when it goes heavy at high speed. The car communicates in a different manner to the CSL, and trust me the grip level is amazing in this thing once set up correctly (mine had terrible geo new from the factory, it was unbelievable).

I actually felt the built quality was quite a step up in the E92 M3, perhaps yours has been lent out one too many times.

I do agree that the warm up lamp looks kinda of cheapish compared to the LED styled warm up lamp - however, I do believe it adds a 'mechanical' feel to the gauge and interior to something that is already an interior packed with electronic wizardry.

Suspension wise, having owned 2 E46 M3s, I'd pitch it somewhere between the CSL and the E46 M3 to be honest. It's actually not that soft and rather jarring at times (take it on a really rough road and you'll notice how well the whole chassis reacts and how composed the car is compared to the old M3).

I do agree the jewel of this car is the engine itself - now imagine this engine in the CSL chassis ... that'd be something quite fun I gather.

If I was only given the choice of owning one car as something that I can use as a track car and daily drive, I'd pick the E92 M3 hands down to be honest.

Will report back on how the E92 M3 is on the track after my driver training next Wednesday ....

still got the pesky thing (its not that bad :)) is it out of order to track it?

I'd agree with a lot of that.

Someone has on here already I think. Daz maybe:hahaha::thumbs:

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my loaner last year when the CSL was in for some work !

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It makes me laugh, there is a thread on Z3M coupe saying how a CSL is no better and now a thread on here saying how shit the e92 m3 compared to the CSL!

http://www.z3mcoupe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8565


Get real guys, this is not a fair comparison.

Where the E92 Wins

Its newer, more refined, comfy, quick

The CSL is crap at daily driving and being practical - fact.

The CSL is totally obnoxious for daily use - fact.

Straight line speed,the e92 is quicker

Takes the road better than the CSL (with EDC).

Its a V8


However, it lacks the soul the CSL has, the sound, the handling (although the E92 does handle well), the CSL feels old in comparison.

Ultimately youre not comparing apples with apples here guys!

The CSL is totally obnoxious for daily use - fact.


Absolute Bollocks :smt047

Used Every single day rain / sun / snow and on KW's with Supersprint race exhaust.

Cant see what the problem is, if you want to sit in comfort, sit on your sofa at home and watch TV :whistle:

There not the same cars at all agreed.. love the new one for it is would not have it over the CSL ever or a GT3... as well as ohh yes

I have been using mine this week for work why I have been swapping the cylinder head on my Cooper S.

It's just an awesome car and it lashed it down today but love driving it:hahaha:

Would use it everyday but don't want to put tooooo many miles on it, 26K miles are getting nearer!!:bigcry::hahaha:

I have no idea what you do for a living but turning up at work in a suit and driving to customers in a milltek'd CSL that fails the sound test at Bedford certainly isn't tame.

The e92 m3 is performance without shouting 'look at me'.

I don't think the CSL stands out. I think it can sit in a car park without anyone noticing it, unless they know what it is, I may be wrong ?

:hahaha::thumbs::hahaha: very good....right if the CSL's not back in a week...although in aint got much in the way of rubber left anyway :whistle:

spot on :thumbs:

Totally agree, GT3 / F430 etc etc is look at me... CSL is another 3 series to people who are unaware, but for those that care its special and up there for enjoyment levels;)

Each to there own I guess, and yes I visit customers, run a sales team for a very large corporate company, and do not have to wear a suit to do business, they like the fact that I don't rock up in the stereo typical 2.4 salesmans std issue grey diesel !!

Thank You Please! :smt047

You're right, I'm completely understated when I turn up for meetings these days ;)

http://gallery.cslcup.co.uk/main.php...serialNumber=2

You guys totally missed my point.

The loudness of the CSL with a milltek, its not exactly subtle!

Anyway, im done with trying to convince people on a CSL forum that there are cars as good available in the world!:hahaha:

Rags, you know it doesn't need spelling out that this is a CSL enthusiasts site. What exactly do you expect? We love the car and everyone has their opinion and drives the car that suits them. Of course there are better cars around. The E92 M3 is a great car. But for me, when I had the choice it couldn't replace the CSL. I want a raw, no-frills, no compromise experience and for me that's a CSL or GT3.

Like Daz, I drove my CSL for a year as my daily driver and loved it, long or short journey's. Not a problem and certainly none of my clients even noticed apart from the one's that recognised the car for what it is.

So, instead of buying a new M3 I changed things around, kept the CSL in the garage for track and weekends and bought something else for day to day.

Each to their own n'all that.:thumbs:

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Could not of put it better myself :thumbs:

Gents

Fifty grand for a car that feels like a family saloon, bordering on a Jaguar.

I didn't really have an informed opinion of a CSL, but after driving it (if I ever get a look in) I have to say, the new one is pretty ugly.

It is like driving an American car, and makes you want to brake whenever you try and blast it, because it feels wobbly and loose, and you go for the brakes.

I have never experienced this in the CSL, (not because he was a lucky fucker and got AP's for Christmas) but it feels too sloppy, having been round the Evo Triangle as a passenger in the CSL. No chance in hell of doing it again in the new one.

I don't know that much about it, all I know is I really don't like the drive, as a passenger or driver.

Adios Jackie the GF

someone with a hangover has just remebered that she posted this last night:hahaha:

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This thread is useless without pics :whistle:

Surely you know what an E92 M3 looks like mate, or is it a picture of jibm's missus you want to see? :whistle: :hahaha:

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new m3 dosent look as nice in the garage either lol,had one for a weekend a few months ago , did nowt for me to be honest ,salesman said i should upgrade to something newer and in better condition than my csl ,daft twat

LOL! :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha: LMAO at Daft twat! Maybe he wanted it for someone else. Anything for sale and all that.