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CraigMillwardCroft 02-02-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 83SY (Post 133997)
Thats rubbish! I don't lift and I love dirty dancing :gayfight:

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

83SY 02-02-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigMillwardCroft (Post 133998)
:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

:smt055 hope you lift

CraigMillwardCroft 02-02-2013 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 83SY (Post 134005)
:smt055 hope you lift

Wait and see :whistle:

83SY 02-02-2013 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigMillwardCroft (Post 134006)
Wait and see :whistle:

My money is on a big lift :hahaha:

Straightsix 02-02-2013 09:36 PM

That's funny because once I viewed a 54 Plate car from Nick Johnson in 2010 and had a test drive and I was keeping my foot planted in the upshifts but he kept telling me to lift. Then when we swapped seats so he could show me what it really could do (I was a little cautious) he was lifting off the throttle during the upshifts apparently takes some of the thump out and maybe (not sure on this) improves clutch life ????

Though I quite enjoy the full bore no lift upshifts to be honest and if BMW says that is how it is meant to be then so be it

alexk 02-02-2013 09:55 PM

Rumors say Nick J. is an expert in breaking apart CSLs.

If you start lifting the SMG ECU starts to adapt and then will slip like crazy and then destroy your clutch.
That's why the manual says 'don't lift unless you're gay' (no offense to the gay, the cslregister is not supporting any racism or discrimination :blalalala:).

Straightsix 03-02-2013 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by alexk (Post 134029)
Rumors say Nick J. is an expert in breaking apart CSLs.

If you start lifting the SMG ECU starts to adapt and then will slip like crazy and then destroy your clutch.
That's why the manual says 'don't lift unless you're gay' (no offense to the gay, the cslregister is not supporting any racism or discrimination :blalalala:).

The SMGII seems pretty simple to drive and the brutal full bore upshifts just adds to the excitement whether in a regular M3 or M3 CSL so I don't really know what the fuss seems to be about .... Except when u can't give it the beans I do find myself missing a manual

CSLScot 03-02-2013 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Straightsix (Post 134024)
That's funny because once I viewed a 54 Plate car from Nick Johnson in 2010 and had a test drive and I was keeping my foot planted in the upshifts but he kept telling me to lift. Then when we swapped seats so he could show me what it really could do (I was a little cautious) he was lifting off the throttle during the upshifts apparently takes some of the thump out and maybe (not sure on this) improves clutch life ????

Though I quite enjoy the full bore no lift upshifts to be honest and if BMW says that is how it is meant to be then so be it

That's pretty much what he told me too, but I wasn't aware of the "no need to lift" statement in the manual nor the strength of "no lifting" policy on here. The CSL's been laid up for the winter since I've learned the error of my ways & I can't wait for some good weather to get out & see what's like full on.

alexk 03-02-2013 08:08 AM

I would like to add something here.

When you drive a manual around town shifting at 2000 or 2500, you normally do nice and slow shifts.
You don't shift very fast right ?
The same is with the SMG.
If you drive slowly, it's good to change the shift speed to a lower level.
If you drive fast, you need to have higher shift speed. Like you would do on a manual... you would shift fast.

I think that's quite basic stuff. After all, it's a manual with servos.

83SY 03-02-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by alexk (Post 134057)
I would like to add something here.

When you drive a manual around town shifting at 2000 or 2500, you normally do nice and slow shifts.
You don't shift very fast right ?
The same is with the SMG.
If you drive slowly, it's good to change the shift speed to a lower level.
If you drive fast, you need to have higher shift speed. Like you would do on a manual... you would shift fast.

I think that's quite basic stuff. After all, it's a manual with servos.

When driving through town or slow to work etc I run the box on just two bars & like you suggested change smoothly as poss.

Do most use the paddles or the stick? i cant remeber the last time I used the stick or the auto mode


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