Oh ok I didn't know that, thanks ;)

Ok, careful - the word lying is quite strong. I'm just stating what information I had and where I had got it from. If you've read my other thread about 'CSL front PDC' then you'll see that it's not the first time I've phoned the £1 per min BMW Information line, only to be told things that aren't quite true. Thankfully when I went to see the CSL, BMW had not punched holes in the £3k front bumper to install PDC so it was a mistake on their part. Same obviously happened here.

As for 'I've never heard of any car manufacturer to do a 'half' facelift before doing a full facelift, despite what you might believe, you're not the font of knowledge when it comes to all things automotive. This is actually quite a common thing for manufactures to do, another good example will be the Mk2 VW Golf. They did a facelift called the '90 spec' where lots of things were changed e.g windows, doors, small/big bumpers etc etc. And there are MANY examples of cross over cars with 'half' facelifts from the factory.

I appreciate what everyones saying, and this doesn't appear to be a 'full facelift' but things are not always as black and white as you make out.

One last thing - people can make 'mistakes' - we're not all blessed with the knowlege that you have ;)

Cheers Shimmy - Can't wait :thumbs:

Thanks Outnumbered, I think your correct - I'll adjust the advert accordingly.

To be honest it didn't bother me whether it was facelift or not, I just went on the spec and condition at the time :)

Give the guy a break fellas, he's simply advertising his car - and what seems a very genuine car at that.

Facelift or not, a genuine buyer will offer and pay for the car what he thinks is fair based on it's condition - simples...

My S8 has this, its a facelift with respect to 99% of the stuff but still came from the factory with the pre-facelift steering wheel.
Think it was what was available in the parts bin at the time of assembly.

Nice looking M3 and i'm sure it will sell :smokin:

Cheers Glendog, I didn't expect to be bombarded with so many comments on here, but if the only suggestions for improvements to the add are to remove the word 'facelift' then I've not done a bad job ;)

Thanks for the support :thumbs:

I'm glad it's not just me who has experience of this then, the VAG group seem to do this on alot of models as they are always introducing 'facelifts' ;)

Cheers for the reply, can't wait to get the CSL :thumbs:

How about 'face lift' style.........:hahaha:


Down at Simpsons and your new CSL looks superb condition James, better than mine for sure. Good buy IMHO.

haha - like all the CSL 'style' M3's on there :hahaha:


Cheers Shimmy, appreciate that, cant wait to pick it up :thumbs:

Is my car on OEM stilts yet?

Steve - while yours is there are we doing that airbox swap?

[quote=funtime;81509]
Ok, careful - the word lying is quite strong. I'm just stating what information I had and where I had got it from. If you've read my other thread about 'CSL front PDC' then you'll see that it's not the first time I've phoned the £1 per min BMW Information line, only to be told things that aren't quite true. Thankfully when I went to see the CSL, BMW had not punched holes in the £3k front bumper to install PDC so it was a mistake on their part. Same obviously happened here.

As for 'I've never heard of any car manufacturer to do a 'half' facelift before doing a full facelift, despite what you might believe, you're not the font of knowledge when it comes to all things automotive. This is actually quite a common thing for manufactures to do, another good example will be the Mk2 VW Golf. They did a facelift called the '90 spec' where lots of things were changed e.g windows, doors, small/big bumpers etc etc. And there are MANY examples of cross over cars with 'half' facelifts from the factory.

I appreciate what everyones saying, and this doesn't appear to be a 'full facelift' but things are not always as black and white as you make out.

One last thing - people can make 'mistakes' - we're not all blessed with the knowlege that you have ;)





well funtime, the fact is that either you were lying or bmw was. either, or, it is as simple as that. it might be a strong word, but nevertheless it is true. I for one have never heard of so many inconsistencies being told by bmw. perhaps you should stop using this source of yours at bmw, as evidently they do not have a clue about bmws.:bigcry:

not once have i ever proclaimed to being 'the font of knowledge when it comes to all things automotive' and neither have I said that people don't make mistakes. i am very surprised that any of my comments have led you to extrapolate as such. evidently your deductive logic is not very developed. i am not 'blessed' with with any such knowledge as you might imply. however, my knowledge of e46 m3s clearly outweighs your own, and the fact remains 'i told you so'.:blalalala:

when people in a forum such as the register are telling you your car is a pre-facelift, it is as 'black and white as we make out'. ;)

glwts and enjoy your csl. :thumbs:

Spot on Roberto...

[quote=toofastforyou;81588]Mate, I have noticed a number of your posts across some threads being rather inflammatory. It may be that I have just happened across those of this nature rather than the more constructive ones you may have posted, but as a friendly suggestion, you may want to adjust the tone of your wording. :smt055