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shimmy 06-02-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorney (Post 41821)
We custom map all the cars we remap, .

John

I assume you have mapped after uprating cams from CSL 288/280 to either 14mm lift 288/280 or bigger cams

What do you do about mapping to make sure pistons/valves dont knock?

Thorney 07-02-2010 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 41824)
John

I assume you have mapped after uprating cams from CSL 288/280 to either 14mm lift 288/280 or bigger cams

What do you do about mapping to make sure pistons/valves dont knock?

The higher lift cams need to be fitted with new retainers as well as rockers. Its what raises the cost so much.

shane@mbtech 07-02-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Thorney (Post 41821)
We custom map all the cars we remap, there are different levels for different mechanical differences. A stage 1 file (standard car) is more about how the power is delivered rather than bigs gains, stage 2 (full exhaust with cats) is a bigger jump and we make much larger changes to fueling as the airflow is increased. Stage 3 adds the manifold which on its own adds 8-10bhp so we again make larger changes to fueling and timing. Stage 4 adds cams of which there are three different versions from Schrick which need different options as regards rockers, retainers etc. You cant fit cams unless you map the car to suit or it will run lean.

The maps are quite different to M3's due to airbox. Superchips is our mapping partner but all the maps we do are ours only and custom done on the dyno.

Race car maps are a version of the stage 4 although we move the torque range around depending on what we want, on my race car last year we tried about 6 different maps some with high end power (start of the season) and latterly with more power lover in the rev range (we disigned the manifold to achieve the same thing) and the result was a quicker car and lower lap times.

Thus far we've mapped/upgraded nearly 130 CSL's in the UK, and if you dont like what you get I'll take it off and refund you.


Im sure Ill be more than Happy John:drool::drool::drool::drool:, so dont think it will come to that.

I just cant wait to get her on track:smokin:

PS you got some more pics for me.

david 07-02-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Thorney (Post 41821)
Thus far we've mapped/upgraded nearly 130 CSL's in the UK

and at least one in France too.... mine...:thumbs:

Thorney 07-02-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by david (Post 41867)
and at least one in France too.... mine...:thumbs:

Hello David, didn't know you were on here? Hows the car?

Not at work at moment but from memory we have:

3 x French
2 x German
1 x Sweden
2 x Swiss
2 x Channel Islands
1 x Greek
2 x Portugal

I think thats it.

Done a few remotely to Hong Kong, China, New Zealand, Australia, SA but a lot of that depends on how good the local dyno guy is in making required changes to the maps (that we need to do here) and the quality of the local fuel.

Bealo 07-02-2010 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorney (Post 41821)
We custom map all the cars we remap, there are different levels for different mechanical differences. A stage 1 file (standard car) is more about how the power is delivered rather than bigs gains, stage 2 (full exhaust with cats) is a bigger jump and we make much larger changes to fueling as the airflow is increased. Stage 3 adds the manifold which on its own adds 8-10bhp so we again make larger changes to fueling and timing. Stage 4 adds cams of which there are three different versions from Schrick which need different options as regards rockers, retainers etc. You cant fit cams unless you map the car to suit or it will run lean.

The maps are quite different to M3's due to airbox. Superchips is our mapping partner but all the maps we do are ours only and custom done on the dyno.

Race car maps are a version of the stage 4 although we move the torque range around depending on what we want, on my race car last year we tried about 6 different maps some with high end power (start of the season) and latterly with more power lover in the rev range (we disigned the manifold to achieve the same thing) and the result was a quicker car and lower lap times.

Thus far we've mapped/upgraded nearly 130 CSL's in the UK, and if you dont like what you get I'll take it off and refund you.

What do you regard as a custom map? When my stage 2 was fitted we run out of time at the end of the day and you put on a map you had. We didn't have time to run my car on the rollers to check everything. But all seems good and i'm happy with the car!

Thorney 07-02-2010 06:26 PM

Yeah I remember, we did a couple of adjustments but ideally I'd like a final dyno run on it. Sometimes we do run out of time but thats why we really say we need the car for a full day.

DazBlackCSL 07-02-2010 06:57 PM

How much of a difference does the dyno make then ... ?

Rich just put mine on over at the Race Wkshop so no Dyno solutions on mine

shane@mbtech 07-02-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bealo (Post 41892)
What do you regard as a custom map? When my stage 2 was fitted we run out of time at the end of the day and you put on a map you had. We didn't have time to run my car on the rollers to check everything. But all seems good and i'm happy with the car!

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Originally Posted by DazBlackCSL (Post 41897)
How much of a difference does the dyno make then ... ?

Rich just put mine on over at the Race Wkshop so no Dyno solutions on mine

A custom map is a map which is tweaked either on the road or dyno. If no road or dyno then they were just a generic map to suit your stage of tune. Most maps are done this way.
A custom one is a generic map that is flashed on and then certain areas are changed accordingly. This is the safest way and best way to tune.

A run on the dyno may not yeild any more power that is truly noticeable Daz, but it will show how well/ bad your car runs with the map. It can highlight any fuelling issues which can duly be changed.

IMO a map is only deemed safe when it is checked on the rollers/road, the dyno is a tool, not always for power figures either.

Im not saying lots of testing/research does not go into flashed generic maps, as most of the time it does, however there are some very crude flash maps out there. But every car is different so a custom map is better every time.


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