50-60k mileage CSL - Safe buy?

[Gibbo]

Hi there

I am contemplating maybe, I repeat maybe returning to CSL ownership.

Really has to be silver grey, seems there is a lot of black ones for sale, some quite nice ones too, but I love SG.

So question is, this engine is one designed for track use and most CSL's have had plenty of track work.

So question is a 50-60k CSL a safe bet, do the engines suffer with mileage, loose power, explode etc, need rebuilds?

I'd plan on doing 5-6 track days per year, would run MPSS or Cups, get geo setup, AP brakes all round and probably go with supersprint exhaust setup.

So is a 50-60k mileage CSL OK and will it keep running fine and be happy to do 10-20 track days in my ownership?

I've seen them for sale with 120k on the clock, so speaks well for the engine, but of course such cars could have thrown huge bills.

Am I right to assume that a sub 60k mile example will cost less to put BMW extended warranty on and if so how much is it per year for sub 60k miles and over 60k miles?

[sydown]

The sub 60,000 mile extended BMW warranty is £80 a month for a fully comp policy with a zero excess, if you are extending an existing policy. Starting a new policy is more expensive and over 60,000 miles I think the price doubles.

[Neil M]

If you buy a car with and existing policy in place, you need to inform them of a change of ownership. When it comes time to renew the policy, you can either opt for the annual, or monthly payments.

If the car is approaching 60K my advice would be to opt for the Monthly payments as 'syndown' says it's £80 per month, providing under 60K.
However this will continue to be the case for as long as you keep the car without attracting any additional premium, irrespective of mileage :wink:

[si.w]

Really has to be silver grey, seems there is a lot of black ones for sale, some quite nice ones too, but I love SG.

If you know of black ones for sale can you let me know, I am after a slower one but can only find SG's!

[Gibbo]

If you know of black ones for sale can you let me know, I am after a slower one but can only find SG's!


Nick Johnson has what looks like an exeptional black one for sale, only two owners and low miles which is rare for a CSL to have so few owners, looks like not much track work too.

I'd be seriously tempted by it, just don't want a black car!!

[Straightsix]

If you buy a car with and existing policy in place, you need to inform them of a change of ownership. When it comes time to renew the policy, you can either opt for the annual, or monthly payments.

If the car is approaching 60K my advice would be to opt for the Monthly payments as 'syndown' says it's £80 per month, providing under 60K.
However this will continue to be the case for as long as you keep the car without attracting any additional premium, irrespective of mileage :wink:

Actually this is not true

Whether u pay monthly or annually BMW review ur premiums every 12 months on policy anniversary. See your policy handbook if u don't believe me.
Maybe they have only changed like this recently.

Also warranty excludes track work. Not sure about modifications. Requires FBMWSH I believe.

[Gibbo]

Actually this is not true

Whether u pay monthly or annually BMW review ur premiums every 12 months on policy anniversary. See your policy handbook if u don't believe me.
Maybe they have only changed like this recently.

Also warranty excludes track work. Not sure about modifications. Requires FBMWSH I believe.


So the warranty is void if you go on track?

Guess its a case of BMW cannot prove if the car failed on a public road or a track though, so pretty much a null argument?

[englebert]

Exactly. Unless you phoned them and said the car wasn't working; half of it was at Paddock Hill, the other half at Druids.

[Marchino]

The modifications will not void the warranty. My car is modified and the warranty is still valid. But if you have a problem with any of the non standard parts,they won't pay.
Also, theoretically, some bmw dealer can refuse to work under warranty on a modified car but, practically, it is difficult to happen.

[Bounce]

Hi there

I am contemplating maybe, I repeat maybe returning to CSL ownership.

Really has to be silver grey, seems there is a lot of black ones for sale, some quite nice ones too, but I love SG.

So question is, this engine is one designed for track use and most CSL's have had plenty of track work.

So question is a 50-60k CSL a safe bet, do the engines suffer with mileage, loose power, explode etc, need rebuilds?

I'd plan on doing 5-6 track days per year, would run MPSS or Cups, get geo setup, AP brakes all round and probably go with supersprint exhaust setup.

So is a 50-60k mileage CSL OK and will it keep running fine and be happy to do 10-20 track days in my ownership?

I've seen them for sale with 120k on the clock, so speaks well for the engine, but of course such cars could have thrown huge bills.

Am I right to assume that a sub 60k mile example will cost less to put BMW extended warranty on and if so how much is it per year for sub 60k miles and over 60k miles?A well looked after 60k mile car will serve you better than a 30k miler with a shit service history.Imho of course.;)

[Bounce]

Here are BMW /Mondial warranty prices,athough I think they have gone up a little this year..;)

BMW Warranty

Full Comp / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £690
Full Comp / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £835
Full Comp / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £951

Full Comp / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £612
Full Comp / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £757
Full Comp / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £873

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Named Part / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £590
Named Part / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £706
Named Part / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £798

Named Part / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £512
Named Part / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £628
Named Part / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £720

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Driveline / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £474
Driveline / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £557
Driveline / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £623

Driveline / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £396
Driveline / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £479
Driveline / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £545


For cars over 60k miles

Full Comp / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £1535
Full Comp / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1926
Full Comp / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £2235

Full Comp / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £1457
Full Comp / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1848
Full Comp / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £2157

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Named Part / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £1266
Named Part / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1578
Named Part / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £1826

Named Part / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £1188
Named Part / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1500
Named Part / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £1748

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Driveline / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £880
Driveline / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1081
Driveline / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £1240

Driveline / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £802
Driveline / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1003
Driveline / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £1162

[s.mac]

Do you have them saved on your computer ?? Along with that weird stuff you post :whistle:

[Bounce]

Do you have them saved on your computer ?? Along with that weird stuff you post :whistle:No,just copy and pasted an old post.:-D

[mattCSLnut]

A well looked after 60k mile car will serve you better than a 30k miler with a shit service history.Imho of course.;)
+1 :wink: It all depends of how well (or badly) the CSL in question has been treated & maintained. Mileage is near on irrelevant and only tells you the number of miles any particular car has covered since new, not how ?
I know of a CSL that had a replacement Engine under Warranty @ only 5000 miles from NEW. Yes, you read this right !!! I also know of a CSL with a genuine gentle 120 000 miles and it was sweet as a nut, better in fact then most 60 000 milers. In fact that CSL was so good it was bought by a dodgy German Clocker :clown: it's mileage clocked back to 50 000 :banghead: and consequently sold onto another unknowing new owner in S.E. Europe :bigcry: .... but that's a long story for another day :whistle:

[Bounce]

Do you have them saved on your computer ?? Along with that weird stuff you post :whistle:Ive got loads of weird stuff saved mate,Yanto keeps sending it to me.:bigcry::whistle:

[s.mac]

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha: I know where you're coming from Bret:whistle:

Matt you just made me :bigcry: 5,000 miles and bang????

I have a sweet 1,200 mile engine, lets hope it's one of the better ones :smokin:

[Yanto]

Ive got loads of weird stuff saved mate,Yanto keeps sending it to me.:bigcry::whistle:


Shhhhhhhhh........

Steve will want it as well :whistle:

[Yanto]

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha: I know where you're coming from Bret:whistle:

Matt you just made me :bigcry: 5,000 miles and bang????

I have a sweet 1,200 mile engine, lets hope it's one of the better ones :smokin:


Don't forget the running in service :smokin:

[s.mac]

Come on mate, you should know me by now (sounds like there could be a song in that)

I had it done a couple of miles before it was due :)

[mattCSLnut]

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha: I know where you're coming from Bret:whistle:

Matt you just made me :bigcry: 5,000 miles and bang????

I have a sweet 1,200 mile engine, lets hope it's one of the better ones :smokin:
It wasn't a faulty engine but an abusive owner :clown:
Yours will be fine mate, U hardly use it :wink: and when U do it's ever so gentle :gayfight: well at least for the first 1200 miles :whistle:

[Straightsix]

Here are BMW /Mondial warranty prices,athough I think they have gone up a little this year..;)

BMW Warranty

Full Comp / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £690
Full Comp / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £835
Full Comp / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £951

Full Comp / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £612
Full Comp / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £757
Full Comp / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £873

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Named Part / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £590
Named Part / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £706
Named Part / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £798

Named Part / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £512
Named Part / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £628
Named Part / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £720

-------------------------------------------------

Driveline / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £474
Driveline / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £557
Driveline / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £623

Driveline / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £396
Driveline / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £479
Driveline / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £545


For cars over 60k miles

Full Comp / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £1535
Full Comp / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1926
Full Comp / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £2235

Full Comp / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £1457
Full Comp / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1848
Full Comp / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £2157

-------------------------------------------------

Named Part / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £1266
Named Part / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1578
Named Part / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £1826

Named Part / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £1188
Named Part / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1500
Named Part / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £1748

-------------------------------------------------

Driveline / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £880
Driveline / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1081
Driveline / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £1240

Driveline / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £802
Driveline / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1003
Driveline / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £1162

Hi mate sounds like u got a bit too much time on ur hands
I have full comp 0 excess breakdown and I am paying about 1400 per year. I had to reinstate warranty as was lapsed

[Bounce]

Hi mate sounds like u got a bit too much time on ur hands
I have full comp 0 excess breakdown and I am paying about 1400 per year. I had to reinstate warranty as was lapsedIt will be lower next year,you always pay more for lapsed warranty.

[Straightsix]

It will be lower next year,you always pay more for lapsed warranty.

Oh ok hope so I bought the warranty on 32k. Now has 33800 miles

[Bounce]

Oh ok hope so I bought the warranty on 32k. Now has 33800 milesJust had a look,you would have paid £1020 if it wasn't lapsed.:-D

[Straightsix]

Just had a look,you would have paid £1020 if it wasn't lapsed.:-D

But that is higher than your 951 figure ? Where did u get that figure from ?

Mind u only claimed once that was just for an input seal on the M-Differential. And u r limited to claiming up to the purchase price u paid apparently.

[Bounce]

But that is higher than your 951 figure ? Where did u get that figure from ?

Mind u only claimed once that was just for an input seal on the M-Differential. And u r limited to claiming up to the purchase price u paid apparently.The list I found were old prices,they have gone up a little since then.