Various weights (bolts, wheels, spacers etc)

[alexk]

Today I got some pics of various stuff.
I think it's good to know the weights.

To start with, here is the weight of an HR 12mm spacer for the CSL. 401g quite heavy

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/hr-spacer-12mm-weight.jpg

Here is a BBS bolt (normal length, I would say 2mm longer threads that OEM BMW bolts). 78g - heavy compared to the OEM ones

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/BBS-bolt-normal.jpg

Here is the OEM BMW bolt. 67g
http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/BMW-bolt.jpg

Here is a longer bolt from Turner Motorsport (+15mm). 77g // lighter than the BBS bolts.

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/TM-15mm-bolt.jpg


Here is the engine rocker cover. 1027g
No one quotes how heavy are these carbon covers that are being sold everywhere.
As far as I am concerned, the carbon should be lighter to justify the money otherwise it's just pointless to replace it.

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/DSC_0041.jpg

Cheeky detail.
The 'gold' 3d-effect BBS wheel caps from the BBS RS-GT are heavier than the carbon look of the BBS CH. 40g vs 33g
So I removed the heavy gold ones and put the carbon look ones in my RS-GTs.

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/DSC_0091.jpg
http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/DSC_0092.jpg


Here is the BBS RS-GT 19 x 8.5J with 245/35/19 Hankook tyres. 20.2kg
I believe they will be lighter with cups :)

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/BBS-RS-GT-19-85J-weight.jpg

The BBS RS-GT 19 x 10J with 275/30/19 Hankook tyres. 21.7kg

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/BBS-RS-GT-19-10J-weight.jpg

The BBS CH 19 x 8.5J with 235/35/19 Vredestein winter tyres. 21.7kg
Note that these winter tyres are very light, still the RS-GT is 1.5kg lighter with significantly heavier tyres (also 245/35 on the RS-GTs).

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/BBS-CH-19-85J-weight.jpg

The BBS CH 19 x 10J with 265/30/19 Vredestein winter tyres. 23.2kg
Again the winter tyres are light and the RS-GT is 1.5kg lighter with heavier/bigger tyres.

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/BBS-CH-19-10J-weight.jpg

[Pip1968]

Whilst marginally interesting I cannot help that you either have too much time on your hands or are single perhaps divorced or soon to be... :whistle:. My wife thinks that I am obsessed with my cars but I told her I could have someone on the side instead. She did not follow that arguement :-D .

Anyway I am going to point her to this post on the 'nerdy site' and hope that she sees I am 'normal' after all :119: .

Pip
Ps Anything on wet and dry weights of the car? :-D

[alexk]

Some time ago I weighted my CSL on a scale. Full tank and nothing taken out (I have the mobility kit, fire extinguisher etc) 1420kg .
That is with AP racing front/rear and SS race lightweight backbox.

[Equinox]

Whilst marginally interesting I cannot help that you either have too much time on your hands or are single perhaps divorced or soon to be... :whistle:. My wife thinks that I am obsessed with my cars but I told her I could have someone on the side instead. She did not follow that arguement :-D .

Anyway I am going to point her to this post on the 'nerdy site' and hope that she sees I am 'normal' after all :119: .

Pip
Ps Anything on wet and dry weights of the car? :-D

:hahaha:

[karbonkid]

I have never gone to the extreme of weighing wheel bolts but certainly interesting.
Although OEM bolts at 67g = 1.34kg per set of 20x, I cant see why some go as far as buying aluminium open ended lugs for wheel studs, substituting safety with a few grams saving only.

I also have plenty of data for various parts which were measured when they were all removed permanently. soon adds up!

[alexk]

I can't agree more Alex. It just doesn't make sense when there are other alternatives to save weight.

I guess you know the Poggipolini titanium bolts (the Gallardo Superleggera has these).
They are nice but there are better things to spend 1200 EUR.

http://www.rennteam.com/page/content/image.png?documentId=36382&maxWidth=800

[alexk]

More weights coming.

An Eibach 12mm spacer, 477g

It is 76g heavier than the H&R 12mm spacer !
So if you have to choose between the two of them, buy the H&R ones !!!

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/eibach-spacer-12mm-weight.jpg

Here is an H&R 20mm spacer (with the extra bolts).

Together with the extra bolts 1037g
That's heavy !

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/hr-spacer-20mm-with-bolts-weight.jpg

Without the bolts 805g

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/hr-spacer-20mm-weight.jpg


The bolts on their own 231g

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/hr-spacer-20mm-bolts-weight.jpg

Now I need to get the Turner motorsport spacers and weight them.

[karbonkid]

Alex, as I promised recently - below is some of the data I collected whilst I put mine on a diet. Some I have refrained from posting as I cannot confirm an accurate weight and some of which would have not been useful for others to know.


REAR SEATS
Rear Backrest - 6.7kg + 3.8kg = 10.5kg
Rear Cushion/ Hardware - 7kg + 0.7kg = 7.7kg
Rear Headrest - 0.55kg x 2 = 1.1kg
Rear Bolters - 1kg x 2 = 2kg
Rear Matts - 0.35kg x 2 = 0.7kg
Rear Speakers/ Carriers - 0.55kg x 2 = 1.1kg
Rear Seatbelts - 0.85kg x 2 = 1.7kg

TOTAL Saving: 24.8kg (54.7lbs)



BOOT
Triangle/ Rear Trays/ First Aid kit = 2.3kg
Tyre Pump/ Foam Carrier = 3.4kg
Boot Board = 2.2kg
Boot Liner x3 (1.1kg + 0.7kg + 0.7kg) = 2.5kg
Boot Sound Deadener x1 = 3kg
Boots Lights x2 = 0.2kg

TOTAL Saving: 13.6kg (29.98lbs)



BATTERY
OEM Battery - 15.6kg / Braille Lightweight - 7.7kg

TOTAL Saving: 7.9kg (17.4lbs)



SUSPENSION
OEM Suspension – 25.2kg / Nitron – 17.2kg

TOTAL Saving: 8kg (17.64lbs)



EXHAUST
OEM Backbox – 25.4kg/ Supersprint Lightweight Race – 11.5kg

TOTAL Saving: 13.9kg (30.64lbs)

[northernjim]

Brake kit weights Alex? (swissAlex or southernAlex :whistle:)

[karbonkid]

Brake kit weights Alex? (swissAlex or southernAlex :whistle:)

Yes, I have OEM CSL Brake weights but removed from the list because I do not have AP Racing to compare.

[Roland]

I guess you know the Poggipolini titanium bolts (the Gallardo Superleggera has these).
They are nice but there are better things to spend 1200 EUR.


paid 400€ for the Poggipolinis :banghead:, i know ....

http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu58/m3csl1_2009/M3%20CSL/IMG_0013.jpg

[alexk]

Roland > please weight one ! If its half the weight I will get a set. 400 eur are a bargain !

AlexKarbonkid > put the OEM brake weights, I have the AP racing weights.
By the way, your Nitron suspension is anchor-heavy, my ohlins is just 14 kilos :blalalala:

[karbonkid]

Roland > please weight one ! If its half the weight I will get a set. 400 eur are a bargain !

AlexKarbonkid > put the OEM brake weights, I have the AP racing weights.
By the way, your Nitron suspension is anchor-heavy, my ohlins is just 14 kilos :blalalala:

I thought you had both Alex?
http://www.clubcsl.com/index.php/weights/8-brake-weights

Yes my Nitrons are made from lead compared to your paperweight Ohlins :-D
But I have lighter wheel spacers! :smokin:

[mattCSLnut]

68.2 kg is impressive weight saving mate :thumbs: how heavy is your half roll cage again ? ;) :-D

Alex, as I promised recently - below is some of the data I collected whilst I put mine on a diet. Some I have refrained from posting as I cannot confirm an accurate weight and some of which would have not been useful for others to know.
REAR SEATS
Rear Backrest - 6.7kg + 3.8kg = 10.5kg
Rear Cushion/ Hardware - 7kg + 0.7kg = 7.7kg
Rear Headrest - 0.55kg x 2 = 1.1kg
Rear Bolters - 1kg x 2 = 2kg
Rear Matts - 0.35kg x 2 = 0.7kg
Rear Speakers/ Carriers - 0.55kg x 2 = 1.1kg
Rear Seatbelts - 0.85kg x 2 = 1.7kg

TOTAL Saving: 24.8kg (54.7lbs)


BOOT
Triangle/ Rear Trays/ First Aid kit = 2.3kg
Tyre Pump/ Foam Carrier = 3.4kg
Boot Board = 2.2kg
Boot Liner x3 (1.1kg + 0.7kg + 0.7kg) = 2.5kg
Boot Sound Deadener x1 = 3kg
Boots Lights x2 = 0.2kg

TOTAL Saving: 13.6kg (29.98lbs)


BATTERY
OEM Battery - 15.6kg / Braille Lightweight - 7.7kg

TOTAL Saving: 7.9kg (17.4lbs)


SUSPENSION
OEM Suspension – 25.2kg / Nitron – 17.2kg

TOTAL Saving: 8kg (17.64lbs)



EXHAUST
OEM Backbox – 25.4kg/ Supersprint Lightweight Race – 11.5kg

TOTAL Saving: 13.9kg (30.64lbs)

[karbonkid]

68.2 kg is impressive weight saving mate :thumbs: how heavy is your half roll cage again ? ;) :-D

:birdman: Listed are not all my savings. I calculated around 130kg savings one year :-D

[streightsix]

I'm thinking of staying off the pies, will that help :-D

[DuncanR]

The exact weight of the fattest fooker in an SB CSL in the UK at low tide is exactly 15 stone 8 lbs !!:thumbs:

[NZ_M3]

I've got quite a few spare bits and pieces in the spare parts room, so if there's anything specific that you guys want weighed just let me know.

[Roland]

Roland > please weight one ! If its half the weight I will get a set. 400 eur are a bargain !

sorry, took a while
The weight is 39.7grams per bolt

Already mailed Poggipolini/Italy about availability, but so far no response

[Yanto]

The exact weight of the fattest fooker in an SB CSL in the UK at low tide is exactly 15 stone 8 lbs !!:thumbs:

SG is more shorty :smokin: