Csl roof no longer available!!!!!!

[Csl spurs]

Can't believe what happened today I ordered a new csl roof about 6 weeks ago from my local dealer and they told me there was none in the uk and a new one had to come from germany so i waited patiently and had a new roof delivered to work today unfortunately it was a new steel metal roof from a standard M3 I got straight on the phone to my local dealer and they said they would look into it as it had been ordered correctly I got a call later to say bmw were no longer making the csl roof and it had been super seeded! With the metal one I am totally lost for words as the roof is the biggest panel on the car and the panel that is a major part off the car and everything it stands for.As for putting a metal roof on the car this would simply kill the value off the car I'm really hopping someone can comment on this as I also thought manufacturers had to produce parts for a Minium off 10 years!:(

[Equinox]

Thanks interesting, will be good to see what people in the know have to say on here about it

[shane@mbtech]

Vulturish as it may seem, I could be tempted to sell mine if price was right.

[Yanto]

I am buying #2 in the next 2 years.

alternatively, maybe Mark can get back downthe shed ?

[Neil M]

Gone the way of the 'Carbon Flippers' NLA from BMW, the appear to be winding down the CSL parts production at it approaches the 10yr model cycle.
Have you had a word with 'Bones' our in house recycler: http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9677

Better still have a word with 'giraffe' he works for Elms, see what he has to say?

[Yanto]

Vulturish as it may seem, I could be tempted to sell mine if price was right.

Fookin vulture ;)

Seriously though.......roof, splitters etc. surely someone can step in here ?

[Bounce]

Can't believe what happened today I ordered a new csl roof about 6 weeks ago from my local dealer and they told me there was none in the uk and a new one had to come from germany so i waited patiently and had a new roof delivered to work today unfortunately it was a new steel metal roof from a standard M3 I got straight on the phone to my local dealer and they said they would look into it as it had been ordered correctly I got a call later to say bmw were no longer making the csl roof and it had been super seeded! With the metal one I am totally lost for words as the roof is the biggest panel on the car and the panel that is a major part off the car and everything it stands for.As for putting a metal roof on the car this would simply kill the value off the car I'm really hopping someone can comment on this as I also thought manufacturers had to produce parts for a Minium off 10 years!:(CA Automotive still sell the oem CSL roof,£9989+vat :119::119:

[Csl spurs]

CA Automotive still sell the oem CSL roof,£9989+vat :119::119:
Is that £999 + vat ?

[NZ_M3]

Sounds about right (see BMW ETK below) ... there's actually more than just the roof that are no longer produced - although a bit strange if you ask me given that BMW built their own carbon fibre production facility when they introduced the E9X M3 ....

Things like the aluminium rear wishbone is also out of production apparently - I've had a set on order for a while now and I don't fancy the chance of them ever turning up ...

The car's 10 years old, you can't expect BMW to be making bits and pieces for it still and beyond. It'll eventually end up at their Classics division, where they can then charge many times more for parts that you need.

I am going to buy a spare car for parts soon I think :whistle:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n319/M3_Power/roof_zps04edb1c9.jpg

[Bounce]

Is that £999 + vat ?Just had a look on their site,there is no price,my mistake:-Dthat price was for a wide body kit,:whistle:They have them though.;)

[shane@mbtech]

Might shelve all my csl bits. Got to be worth more in 15 yrstime:smokin:

[Yanto]

Surely this'll start increasing number of Cat D's for minor offs ?

[chrisburns]

Not great news for you. However this is the beginning of the CSL becoming a true classic. As time goes on the cars and there components will become more & more rare & eventually very hard to get thus the value will soar.
Look at the RS guys the prices parts for their cars command.

Yep, buckle your seats lads :hahaha:

[rstoughy]

Vulturish as it may seem, I could be tempted to sell mine if price was right.

Dont, not yet anyway :wink:

[83SY]

Sounds like a 2nd one is your only option.
Fortunately it's not a part that shows signs of wear.

[Pooky]

With most of these type of specials the car manufacturers make the parts when the cars are built, including spares. It doesn't work financially to manufacture small numbers of spares, or a one off, as they are needed.

So, most of the special parts will have been made 10 years ago, and then stored, and then as they are needed they are drawn from this stock. Normally you can spot this process when spares are restricted to the vehicle's VIN at the dealer. This prevents the stock getting used for other cars.

Obviously the manufacture has to figure out what spares they need over a certain period but it will mean these spares have a finite life, after a certain time they're all gone.

I'm sure that not all CSL spares will be like this (and I don't know how exactly BMW have controlled the spares) but I also suspect a great deal are, so worth holding onto whatever you have.

[alexk]

Hm,

I would expect it would be built when ordered.
At least that is what happened with my extra set of front flaps that took 8 months to arrive.
Let me check about the roof and get back to you.

I would be really shocked if BMW would deny delivering basic components of the car (bumpers, roof etc).
We are not talking about a bolt, we are talking about a roof now.

[0836whimper]

What happens about manufacturer warranty claims on major components no longer made ?

[83SY]

What happens about manufacturer warranty claims on major components no longer made ?

Thats a good point! note to self... dont roll the CSL :(

[0836whimper]

I'll be checking my house for loose roof tiles tonight.
And let's hope one of those freak hail-storms doesn't happen.

[chrisburns]

What happens about manufacturer warranty claims on major components no longer made ?

They revert to using normal M3 components, well in the case of the CSL anyway.

[Neil M]

CA still have it listed under their 'OEM' category, however I would think this pre-susposes that the part is still available from BMW, price: £1,263.70
http://www.ca-int.co.uk/products-Y2FyX21ha2U9Ym13JmNhcl90eXBlPWU0Nm0mY2F0X2lkPTEzMC Zjb21wX2lkPTY2.html

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Mark needs to get a bigger workshop to be able to fit the roof jobs in :thumbs:

[83SY]

Mark needs to get a bigger workshop to be able to fit the roof jobs in :thumbs:

Those big fingers will be working over time :notworthy:

[Mark CSL]

I would not tray and make a roof :bigcry: Thats a different job all together.

Its all the standard M3s in the USA that have been buying all the CSL roofs up :banghead:

[Barry C]

I always thought they were sellling the roof's way to cheap. 900 quid is cheap, it's nearly the same price as the flippers, diffuser, console etc

It should be a few grand easily. That would keep the riff raff away from sticking them on their M3's:blalalala:

[Levente]

yes the roof price suprised me too, its relativly cheap compared to other carbon parts of the csl. for example the carbon side of the door costs 5000 euro here. wtf :119:

[s1csl]

I would not tray and make a roof :bigcry: Thats a different job all together.

Its all the standard M3s in the USA that have been buying all the CSL roofs up :banghead:

I didnt think bmw would sell csl parts unless you owned one ?

[Bounce]

I didnt think bmw would sell csl parts unless you owned one ?They only asked for a vin number,then you could get anything CSL.Shame really.

[Csl spurs]

Hm,

I would expect it would be built when ordered.
At least that is what happened with my extra set of front flaps that took 8 months to arrive.
Let me check about the roof and get back to you.

I would be really shocked if BMW would deny delivering basic components of the car (bumpers, roof etc).
We are not talking about a bolt, we are talking about a roof now.
That would be great if you cold look into it for me :beer:

[CSLSEM3]

I would not tray and make a roof :bigcry: Thats a different job all together.

Its all the standard M3s in the USA that have been buying all the CSL roofs up :banghead:


At least one roof made it into the US via the dealer network but then BMWUSA caught on and restricted all CSL parts from import into the US.

Even with a genuine vin you can't get CSL parts here in the US (ask me how I know).

They took it one step farther and excluded all non-US parts under the excuse that they are not US DOT federalized for sale and therefor would open a can of liability worms. Every once in while you can sneak a harmless part into the system, but its rare.

From my experience with NLA E30 SportEvo parts, BMW will wait for the request que to fill up to some critical mass and then reproduce a missing part. This happened with SportEvo rear spoilers in th past and more recently with Nagaro Silver 16in wheels. (After we found the wheels had become available again, some friends and I ordered a pallet full to put away!) :partyman:

[alexk]

I am checking about the roof availability guys.
I will have soon some news.

[Straightsix]

Is all these Mickey Mouse people with regular M3s trying to make it look CSL

[Barry C]

Why do we even care? It's not as if any of us need a new roof? Does the OP have a CSL? why the need for a new roof?

If my CSL needed a new roof, it would probably be a wreck!:wink:

[Mark CSL]

Ok Spoke to bmw dealer today
old part CSL Carbon Roof £110.20 + Vat
New part Roof Skin £466.83 + Vat Metal roof

Slate from the roof falling on the CSL Roof they will wright the car off or make it into the M3 CS :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[Yanto]

Why do we even care? It's not as if any of us need a new roof? Does the OP have a CSL? why the need for a new roof?

If my CSL needed a new roof, it would probably be a wreck!:wink:

Member on here had on after cracked skin and water getting in. Thread somewhere .

[Bounce]

Member on here had on after cracked skin and water getting in. Thread somewhere .Here is an old thread.
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4411

[Straightsix]

:thumbs:Ok Spoke to bmw dealer today
old part CSL Carbon Roof £110.20 + Vat
New part Roof Skin £466.83 + Vat Metal roof

Slate from the roof falling on the CSL Roof they will wright the car off or make it into the M3 CS :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

M3 CS is a good car mate

[KPNUTZ]

Ok Spoke to bmw dealer today
old part CSL Carbon Roof £110.20 + Vat
New part Roof Skin £466.83 + Vat Metal roof

Slate from the roof falling on the CSL Roof they will wright the car off or make it into the M3 CS :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

£110 for a carbon roof?? Surely a typo?

[0836whimper]

I am checking about the roof availability guys.
I will have soon some news.

Thanks.

Would be good if we could get a definitive view from BMW on all the CSL specific parts and whether they will supply them.

No idea how you go about that though

[Yanto]

:thumbs:

M3 CS is a good car mate

Http://www.pistonheads.co.uk

Http://www.m3cutters.co.uk

HTH :thumbs:

[Straightsix]

Http://www.pistonheads.co.uk

Http://www.m3cutters.co.uk

HTH :thumbs:

What about those sites I am a member of them too
U got to take ur blinkers off and recognise good cars there are others besides the CSL u know ....

[alexk]

Thanks.

Would be good if we could get a definitive view from BMW on all the CSL specific parts and whether they will supply them.

No idea how you go about that though

My brother was telling me yesterday that BMW (and others in EU) has a legal obligation to supply parts for 40 years from the production date of the car.
I will have a definitive answer in a few days, but again, I would be very surprised if you cannot have the roof even if it means to wait for 3,6,8 months.

As a side note, you can order pretty much anything for the E12 and E21.
Why not all parts for a special and quite expensive E46 ?

[Yanto]

What about those sites I am a member of them too
U got to take ur blinkers off and recognise good cars there are others besides the CSL u know ....

:smt043:smt043:smt043

[_Nathan_]

My brother was telling me yesterday that BMW (and others in EU) has a legal obligation to supply parts for 40 years from the production date of the car.

Any proof on that?

[0-60Motorsports]

Well if this is true then looks like im pretty much buggered as I was really looking forward to getting an OEM CSL roof for my M3 in the near future.

[northernjim]

I agree with Pooky, look at old fat fingers and the seats he keeps getting replaced, all made in the initial production run




From my experience with NLA E30 SportEvo parts, BMW will wait for the request que to fill up to some critical mass and then reproduce a missing part.

this is what happens with parts for my rusty old ford, once the initial stock has gone.... although certain items you just cannot get anymore. It depends on whether bmw can actually get the part anymore, whether it is too cost prohibitive or if they can be bothered!

[LeinsCSL]

There are quite a few parts now NLA for my E30. eBay is usually your friend in such instances, although I don't fancy my chances of sourcing an Alpina ECU, or for that matter a CSL roof, too quickly

[NZ_M3]

Have just gotten the official word back from BMW NZ here ... correct, majority of CSL parts are now "No Longer Available".

What remains is it ...

time to buy a parts car me thinks :whistle:

[Bounce]

There is a new oem M3 CSL carbon roof on German EBay if anyone wants one to put in there shed as an investment,they'll be like rockinghorse shit in a couple of years.:wink:

[chrisburns]

There is a new oem M3 CSL carbon roof on German EBay if anyone wants one to put in there shed as an investment,they'll be like rockinghorse shit in a couple of years.:wink:

I know a guy who once bought 100 alfa romeo bonnets thinking the same thing. They never stopped producing the bloody things :-D
(cant remember the model btw)

[Bounce]

I know a guy who once bought 100 alfa romeo bonnets thinking the same thing. They never stopped producing the bloody things :-D
(cant remember the model btw)That would be just my luck,if I fell into a barrel of tits I'd come up sucking my thumb.:(;)

[AlexGTT]

:thumbs:

M3 CS is a good car mate

Feck off!!! We've spent the last year telling Jim how shite they are!:whistle::wink::hahaha:

I'm fairly sure they'll adopt the policy of banking orders and doing a run when they deem demand is enough. Common practice these days for manufacturers. Of course, they'll put the prices where they want.
:bigcry:

As mentioned before, I guess the CSL will pass into their Classic's department quite soon.

[daytonaviolet]

At least one roof made it into the US via the dealer network but then BMWUSA caught on and restricted all CSL parts from import into the US.




ohh.. i wonder if that was me :gayfight: oops!!

[0-60Motorsports]

ohh.. i wonder if that was me :gayfight: oops!!

Im pretty sure it WAS you, You CSL parts ho!

[Straightsix]

Feck off!!! We've spent the last year telling Jim how shite they are!:whistle::wink::hahaha:

I'm fairly sure they'll adopt the policy of banking orders and doing a run when they deem demand is enough. Common practice these days for manufacturers. Of course, they'll put the prices where they want.
:bigcry:

As mentioned before, I guess the CSL will pass into their Classic's department quite soon.

Mean while back in the real world

For those of u that are after M3 CSL parts u are better off contacting BMW Park Lane Classic Lee/Jamie and if the part is NLA they will make a note of requests and encourage BMW to produce more parts unlike other BMW Dealers :-)

[alexk]

BMW Switzerland told me that they will definitely produce all the parts CSLs need.

The major issue was that many CSL-wannabes put CSL parts and BMW does not like this.

[shimmy]

BMW Switzerland told me that they will definitely produce all the parts CSLs need.

The major issue was that many CSL-wannabes put CSL parts and BMW does not like this.

Well I have a bodywork warranty so if my roof were to be faulty within the 12 years I hope they have tucked at least one away!

[Straightsix]

BMW Switzerland told me that they will definitely produce all the parts CSLs need.

The major issue was that many CSL-wannabes put CSL parts and BMW does not like this.

True for CS/CSL parts when buying new u have to supply a correct VIN. Though I am sure lots have been able to obtain these genuine parts very easily

[0836whimper]

Just spoke with Lee at BMW Park Lane. He reckons replacement splitters are available and put an order in for me.

So we'll see what happens. Half expecting a NLA phonecall.

[Straightsix]

Just spoke with Lee at BMW Park Lane. He reckons replacement splitters are available and put an order in for me.

So we'll see what happens. Half expecting a NLA phonecall.

Nice one.

[northernjim]

Feck off!!! We've spent the last year telling Jim how shite they are!:whistle::wink::hahaha:



Mean while back in the real world

For those of u that are after M3 CSL parts u are better off contacting BMW Park Lane Classic Lee/Jamie and if the part is NLA they will make a note of requests and encourage BMW to produce more parts unlike other BMW Dealers :-)

Mr Six,

You obviously don't know Alex or me well enough to have got that joke.....



and what makes you so sure park lane are better than any other stealers?



apart from that - how do:beer:

[alexk]

I have a set of flippers ready to ship.
Friendly price 999GBP including shipment :)

[Straightsix]

Mr Six,

You obviously don't know Alex or me well enough to have got that joke.....



and what makes you so sure park lane are better than any other stealers?



apart from that - how do:beer:

Hi mate
I was on a BMW Car Club GB trip to Park Lane last week. We had a tour of all the showrooms service and parts departments and lunch.
They were explaining on parts tour how they deal with requests for parts how they check stock in UK. There are 2 warehouses in UK for BMW. Also explained his they check stock in Germany. They also said often they get cases where sometimes a part is NLA but they always double check with BMW AG in Germany as sometimes they have a part there. They were explaining they go the extra mile compared to other BMW Dealers. Well I guess they would say that. Park Lane are also owned by BMW UK. I have ordered many parts myself on my BMWs and Lee is a good guy. Just my two cents worth. They also deal with lots of BMW Classic queries all over the world such as E9 3.0 CSL, 2002s, 328s .... Etc.

And if they don't have a part they will register your interest. Also Lee keeps detailed records of orders; requests etc which I don't think other BMW Dealers do. During the tour I was asking him about M3 CSL parts and the Park Lane MD. they can make any part but is down to demand .... Obviously cost is an issue too. And if they cannot make it chances are they will know one if their suppliers or get the original drawings from BMW AG.

Yes I don't know anyone here so I might not understand some of these jokes. But I am a big BMW fan .... M3 CSL is my favourite BMW. At the moment I have M3 CS Coupe Manual; E46 323Ci Coupe; E30 325i Sport. Love a CSL though :-)

[LeinsCSL]

But I am a big BMW fan .... M3 CSL is my favourite BMW. At the moment I have M3 CS Coupe Manual; E46 323Ci Coupe; E30 325i Sport. Love a CSL though :-)

Love the E30s! :thumbs:

[Straightsix]

Love the E30s! :thumbs:

Hi thanks yes the E30 is a bit ropey as most are this is a early Sport pre facelift

Something about the E30s they go sideways at will

[LeinsCSL]

Hi thanks yes the E30 is a bit ropey as most are this is a early Sport pre facelift

Something about the E30s they go sideways at will

They certainly do, and great when fitted with an LSD

[Obioban]

Well if this is true then looks like im pretty much buggered as I was really looking forward to getting an OEM CSL roof for my M3 in the near future.

You and me both. I would have ordered it long ago if I had known it was going to go NLA.

[daytonaviolet]

Well if this is true then looks like im pretty much buggered as I was really looking forward to getting an OEM CSL roof for my M3 in the near future.


what!! i thought you had a csl roof already :bigcry:

[0836whimper]

Gone the way of the 'Carbon Flippers' NLA from BMW, the appear to be winding down the CSL parts production at it approaches the 10yr model cycle.

Can confirm carbon flippers are available to order through dealer network as I just had some arrive as spares. Took less than a week from Germany, although they arrive unlacquered.

[Straightsix]

Can confirm carbon flippers are available to order through dealer network as I just had some arrive as spares. Took less than a week from Germany, although they arrive unlacquered.

How much are they ?

[alexk]

although they arrive unlacquered.

That's weird

[outnumbered]

That's weird

Sounds like a manufacturing issue, doesn't it ?

[0836whimper]

£200 each.

I was advised they would be unlacquered, BMW UK advised that before I agreed to have them sent. Bit odd though I agree.

[alexk]

I got a set 2 years ago. They are the 'new version' (with 4 holes, check NZ_M3's thread).
They are lacquered.

What is going on with the cost reduction ? :119:

[Neil M]

Can confirm carbon flippers are available to order through dealer network as I just had some arrive as spares. Took less than a week from Germany, although they arrive unlacquered.

Sounds like they were an 'Unfinished' product, didn't pass QA inspection, I hope you got a good discount.

[M5 Powered]

I bought spares about a year and a half ago from BMW which are the 4 hole variety. However, the non-laquered version was also offered at the same price:moan:

Also these 4 hole types arn't quite as snug a fit as the originals which I've had repaired and put away.

Kindest,

Jonathan

[Barry C]

I just heard BMW have 40 CSL boot lids left and when they're gone, that's it. No more boot lids

[Straightsix]

I just heard BMW have 40 CSL boot lids left and when they're gone, that's it. No more boot lids

They will make more as long as demand is high enough

Which dealer told u that ????

[Neil M]

You can still get a roof from Geoff Steel Racing, £550:
http://www.geoffsteelracing.co.uk/parts/details/8

[Obioban]

You can still get a roof from Geoff Steel Racing, £550:
http://www.geoffsteelracing.co.uk/parts/details/8

Yeah, but... aftermarket roofs can be a disaster. Turing yellow over time, not fitting properly and leaking as a result, cracking due to chassis stress being transmitted through them, etc, etc.

What's acceptable for a race car doesn't always work for a street car. I suspect those are great for race cars... but I wouldn't put one on my street car.

[Obioban]

Any updates on this?

[chrisburns]

Any updates on this?

In what sense ?

[Obioban]

In what sense ?

Well, they just changed the OE CSL rear diffuser situation. They now come unpainted and are cheaper than before.

Gave me some slight optimism that maybe the roof wasn't discontinued so much as being moved to a different style of production.

[Loaded]

My brother was telling me yesterday that BMW (and others in EU) has a legal obligation to supply parts for 40 years from the production date of the car.
I will have a definitive answer in a few days, but again, I would be very surprised if you cannot have the roof even if it means to wait for 3,6,8 months.

As a side note, you can order pretty much anything for the E12 and E21.
Why not all parts for a special and quite expensive E46 ?

You catch me! I have a friend that he recently ordered a full Sport Evo body work for his M3 E30 (bigger front wings, real flap, front splitter, red seat belts etc) all OEM and of course for a lot of money BUT there are still available.!! Parts which were produced 21 years ago..!!!

[Mike R]

Sadly in the UK it is only a requirement to retain spares for 7 years after a model has ceased production. Ford are particularly bad at this and in recent years have discontinued manufacturing parts on small volume models almost immediately that the 7 years is up :(.

[0836whimper]

I don't think it's like that for BMW parts. I think some more niche parts (like CSL bits) show up as NLA in the system when they run out but it doesn't mean they won't be made again. Just depends on demand.

Flippers were supposedly NLA, but then got some first time of asking.
The roof is available again, albeit unlacquered, like the flippers. (That's alot of lacquering required for the roof !)
And I am pretty sure plaques are still being produced.

So my advice would be not to assume that once stocks deplete that's it.

[0836whimper]

Need to pin down a BMW suit whilst we are in Munchen and make them clarify policy. Or we won't move our cars off the drive :snakeman:

[portlandgrey]

If anyones in need, it looks like CA have managed to get hold of some:

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1067518#post1067518

£500 seems a bit cheap?

They also had a load of CSL bootlids for sale:
http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=74772

So much for needing a chassis number to get hold of the parts.

[Obioban]

I don't think it's like that for BMW parts. I think some more niche parts (like CSL bits) show up as NLA in the system when they run out but it doesn't mean they won't be made again. Just depends on demand.

Flippers were supposedly NLA, but then got some first time of asking.
The roof is available again, albeit unlacquered, like the flippers. (That's alot of lacquering required for the roof !)
And I am pretty sure plaques are still being produced.

So my advice would be not to assume that once stocks deplete that's it.

What does being unlacquered mean, exactly? And... how would one lacquer it?

[0-60Motorsports]

If its un lacquered I'm not interested in the headache of clear coating it etc

[0836whimper]

Unlacquered means a raw carbon finish. The diffusers and flippers seem to arrive like that now, not sure about the roof.

Personally I'd get a pro to lacquer/clear coat anything, I have never done it before. Wouldn't fancy doing a whole roof either...

[k00k]

I've been thinking, does the raw carbon roof need to be lacquered at all?? Basically it sounds like the roof will come in a raw carbon fibre satin finish. I think I've seen a few supercars getting around sporting that look on certain parts of the bodywork. Maybe there's no need for lacquering, unless you want that gloss look? The resin is already injected into the carbon fibre mold when its vacuum processed, that's probably enough waterproofing right there. As long as its UV safe that's enough? I found this local site, might explain what I'm on about...

http://www.topstage.com/composite-fabrication/

[0836whimper]

I'm no carbon finish expert, but for the roof I'd think it'd need a protective finish. They get hammered with water, strong UV rays, frost, bird-crap, stone chips, car shampoo etc.

[Obioban]

And... Failure.


BIG APOLOGY FOR GETTING PEOPLES HOPES UP :(

We have just recieved our test order "carbon" csl roof panel from BMW.

Im regretably having to inform you it is NOT carbon fibre (Even tho Bmw list it as a carbon panel)

They have replaced the carbon csl roof panel with this metal panel.

Im so glad we have caught this before we have taken money from customers as i have at least 20 orders for the "carbon" roof which i now cannot supply.

Again im sorry for this :(

[0-60Motorsports]

And... Failure.

It had been checked and verified by one of the members here and it showed the panel to be Alu now and not CF. Oh well I guess it was worth a shot! EVOLVE's CF roof will be just as good.

[Obioban]

It had been checked and verified by one of the members here and it showed the panel to be Alu now and not CF. Oh well I guess it was worth a shot! EVOLVE's CF roof will be just as good.

Alu? As in... not steel?

[0-60Motorsports]

Alu? As in... not steel?

Isn't the roof aluminum? I thought it was. Maybe it's steel.