CSL 8000 miles 90.000 GBP

[pinkmpower]

I own a fast E46 M3 Twin Turbo, 60-130 mph 4,23 seconds (62-125 mph in 3,61 seconds) . Thats my passion, hobby car.
My E36 M3 TT and E46 M3 TT times can be seen at
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/996-turbo-gt2/259006-6speedonlines-official-1-4-mile-60-130-100-150-standing-mile-thread.html



I was looking for a CSL as well. Found one CSL in Istanbul Turkey.

8.000 miles only

90.000 GBP

does this sound right?

Note that there are 9 CSLs in Turkey. One is wrecked.
One belongs to a collector and the rest have 30.000-40.000 miles on the clock.

We have high taxes in Turkey, a brand new E92 M3 is for 130.000 GBP.

Importing second hand cars is not permitted.

So I ll either buy this 8000 miles CSL or daydream of it.

Would you pay 90k GBP for a very clean CSL if it was the only clean option?

I drive a 997 Turbo, Daily, and want to keep the CSL as the queen of the garage, no intention to drive or track the CSL.

[shimmy]

welcome

sounds about right

mine was gonna be on sale for £78k soon

[pinkmpower]

welcome

sounds about right

mine was gonna be on sale for £78k soon


whats the mileage on yours?

[shimmy]

whats the mileage on yours?

178k

[chrisburns]

Shimmy you really are a coont :hahaha:

[Straightsix]

welcome

sounds about right

mine was gonna be on sale for £78k soon

Really his is worth about £17k :-P

[Barry C]

how much do the 30 or 40k mile examples cost?

90k sounds a bit crazy, especially for something that will sit in a garage. Could you not buy a nice Ferrari for that money in turkey?

[Pip1968]

Move abroad and pay a 'normal' price. Syria is looking cheap right now :whistle: and you would still be able to nip home.Or go nuclear and move to Iran and you will have cheap fuel.

Pip

[alexk]

Guys cars in Turkey are super expensive plus they cannot import 2nd hand ones.

If the E92 M3 is 130k, then 80k for the low-milage CSL is a bargain.

Go for it !

Edit : you should see how much the petrol costs in Bodrum :(

[pinkmpower]

how much do the 30 or 40k mile examples cost?

90k sounds a bit crazy, especially for something that will sit in a garage. Could you not buy a nice Ferrari for that money in turkey?


30k 40k there is one for sale for 77.000 GBP.

I dont want to drive a Ferrari, I Daily drive a 997 Turbo, and it fits me perfectly.

As I have spent a lot of time on my E46 M3 Twin Turbo I want a refined version of it, and its the CSL:)



Move abroad and pay a 'normal' price. Syria is looking cheap right now :whistle: and you would still be able to nip home.Or go nuclear and move to Iran and you will have cheap fuel.

Pip


Second hand import is restricted.


Guys cars in Turkey are super expensive plus they cannot import 2nd hand ones.

If the E92 M3 is 130k, then 80k for the low-milage CSL is a bargain.

Go for it !

Edit : you should see how much the petrol costs in Bodrum :(


Bodrum itself is a nice place.

You are right, we are not allowed to import second hand cars.

E92 GTS, brand new, 250.000 GBP :)

[Eduardo]

Wow, how much would i get for my Z4MC GT4 there.

No papers as it's a race car. So no import duties i guess .

Will take 200 K , just for Christmas :-D . Will trail it there for that price too :wink:

Eduardo.

[Neil M]

I've heard of an import evasion scheme using Cyprus as a dropping off point is that still available?

New UK Spec cars used to get imported to a Cypriate Dealer, which were then collected by their prospective owners and driven back to Mainland Turkey.
This was used to import BMW Mercedes and Maserati I (that know of) to avoid any duty payable.

I'm thinking perhaps a bogus Northern Cyprus address might have been involved.

[pinkmpower]

I've heard of an import evasion scheme using Cyprus as a dropping off point is that still available?

New UK Spec cars used to get imported to a Cypriate Dealer, which were then collected by their prospective owners and driven back to Mainland Turkey.
This was used to import BMW Mercedes and Maserati I (that know of) to avoid any duty payable.

I'm thinking perhaps a bogus Northern Cyprus address might have been involved.


that is 100 % out of question.

[Straightsix]

OP

U say u want a 'refined' version of the E46 M3. Then how about the M3 CS Coupe or M3 Competition Package as this is known in Europe with the BMW Manual Gearbox :-).

This has the main benefit of all the creature comforts of the regular M3 with some of the dynamic qualities of the M3 CSL.

Comforts such as electric leather sports with driver memory; air-conditioning; climate control etc but with the additions of M3 CSL sharper steering rack; M3 CSL bigger brakes; M3 CSL suede/alcantra steering wheel; M3 CSL suede/alcantra handbrake; M-Track mode; revised suspension designed to reduce any understeer and better handling; CSL wheels.

Go for the BMW Manual Gearbox M3 CS as more involving over wider range of driving conditions. This is also big plus. Also comes with SMGII as an option.

Should be cheaper than CSL. Rarer than CSL in UK than in Europe. However, in Eirope may be other way round. Adds extra sparkle to the amazing M3 especially the more involving steering rack. CS is better should u want more refined especially when used more regularly than CSL.

[pinkmpower]

OP

U say u want a 'refined' version of the E46 M3. Then how about the M3 CS Coupe or M3 Competition Package as this is known in Europe with the BMW Manual Gearbox :-).

This has the main benefit of all the creature comforts of the regular M3 with some of the dynamic qualities of the M3 CSL.

Comforts such as electric leather sports with driver memory; air-conditioning; climate control etc but with the additions of M3 CSL sharper steering rack; M3 CSL bigger brakes; M3 CSL suede/alcantra steering wheel; M3 CSL suede/alcantra handbrake; M-Track mode; revised suspension designed to reduce any understeer and better handling; CSL wheels.

Go for the BMW Manual Gearbox M3 CS as more involving over wider range of driving conditions. This is also big plus. Also comes with SMGII as an option.

Should be cheaper than CSL. Rarer than CSL in UK than in Europe. However, in Eirope may be other way round. Adds extra sparkle to the amazing M3 especially the more involving steering rack. CS is better should u want more refined especially when used more regularly than CSL.


Thank you very much for your detailed reply.

There was just 1 E46 M3 CS in Turkey, Interlagos Blue, lovely color, interior was beautiful. It was a nice car. But that has been the one and only CS here. This CS has been modified, supercharged, pushed hard, had many owners. As a result, I have no way to get a CS.

The black CSL has just 8000 miles and asking for 90.000 GBP. Is it worth to buy it?

Is the CSL a unique M3?

[_Nathan_]

I would buy one for £25k and store it at the ring, fly there once a month to enjoy it, twice in the summer, far better use of money.

You'll also lose little if you sell and if you love it you can always get rid and buy the 90k one.

Will feel very slow compared to your current car, especially at higher speeds.

[alexk]

Is the CSL a unique M3?

I am really surprised...
The answer is YES, it is unique. It can't get more unique in a road going BMW.
Also, we told you 90k when the E92 M3 is 130k is a bargain.
What you keep asking ? :whistle:

[digi]

I need to raise the price of my CSL now. Hong Kong only has 6 official imports and prices are about the same as in Turkey.

I'm only selling it for $47.5K GBP Mine has done 22K miles (36K km)

CSL with a Gruppe M/Agency Power V2 or decent rep version sounds unreal. :smokin:

CS and regular M3's lack the alpha N setup and are not the same.

[pinkmpower]

The same CSL is still for sale.

texted the owner,

he was asking for 90.000 GBP.

he replied he will go down but wants to negotiate face to face.

7800 miles on the clock, 1 owner, in very good condition.

how much would such a CSL cost in UK?

Please bear in mind that there is just one "cleaner " CSL ownerd by BMW Turkish Distributor, zero miles, collection car, wont be for sale.

Other than these 2 clean samples, all are either raped or wrecked.

How much is such a CSL with 7800 miles worth?

[cslsuperfan]

Worth every penny

and it's got a bobble free steering wheel!!




welcome

sounds about right

mine was gonna be on sale for £78k soon

[northernjim]

Please bear in mind that there is just one "cleaner " CSL ownerd by BMW Turkish Distributor, zero miles, collection car, wont be for sale.

Other than these 2 clean samples, all are either raped or wrecked.

How much is such a CSL with 7800 miles worth?




We do not live in Turkey so we cannot say how much it is worth... Indeed it is only worth what a buyer will pay......



If I were you I would buy it, but haggle with his price :partyman:

[Mike R]

A car of that mileage would be around £42-45k in the UK.

[NBTBRV8]

What would a UK delivered 1300 mile car be worth?

[Mike R]

What would a UK delivered 1300 mile car be worth?

That would be more of a collectors car (so a limited market), so at a guess £50k+.

[Neil M]

We do not live in Turkey so we cannot say how much it is worth... Indeed it is only worth what a buyer will pay......

If I were you I would buy it, but haggle with his price :partyman:

As Jim says if difficult to determine a realistic price, as the price is relative to availability and currency values. There were I think only 8 CSL in Turkey, in the UK there were 422.

A realistic value under these circumstances can only be determined by whatever someone is prepared to pay.

If that car was for sale here in the UK I could see an asking price anywhere between £45 and £50K at this point.

Prices here, have been rising steadily for the past 8 months and I have no reason to doubt that this trend will not continue for the foreseeable future.
10 years old, well on the way to achieving classic/cult status within the BMW community, the same as the E30 Evo and the Batmobile.

Bottom line: If you can afford it Buy it:thumbs: