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Pip1968
06-12-2012, 05:53 PM
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=26780&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=html&utm_campaign=2012-12-5

SPOTTED: BMW M3 CS

A rather rare E46 M3 catches our eye - but this one isn't a CSL

http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/26780/CSforweb2.jpg

When BMW launched the E46 M3 CSL, one question was repeated by the world's motoring press and enthusiasts; can this car really be worth £18,000 more than a regular M3? Today, approaching a decade after the CSL's launch, it remains a valid query.

http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/26780/CSforweb1-t.jpg (http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/26780/CSforweb1-L.jpg)
Smoked headlights aren't original, but are easily replaced
The very best CSLs (http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-m3-csl-15400-miles/817936) are still commanding over £35,000, but our featured M3 (http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-m3-clubsport-manual-cs-rac-warranty/526695) is available for £14,000, its additional miles accounting for the even greater price difference. Moreover, it isn't a regular E46 M3; it's a CS. With a manual gearbox, an interface between man and machine so cruelly denied to CSL owners.
The CS was the E46 M3's swansong, a run-out special that appears largely neglected now in the face of spiralling CSL values. Whilst power remained identical to standard at 343hp, the CS received the brakes, steering wheel and steering rack from the CSL. BMW also fitted the M-Track mode to the traction and stability controls, loosening their respective intervention thresholds. The CS package was completed by some CSL-esque Y-spoke alloy wheels.
It wasn't, despite the nomenclature, a cut-down CSL. Consider the CS instead as an M3 Plus and you'll be closer to the truth. So although there's no carbon airbox or weight loss, an M3 CS does offer small but tangible improvements over the regular car. The revised steering gives even better response over the standard M3 and revised springs aid its B-road composure. For £14,000, a manual CS appears stunning value.

http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/26780/CSforweb3-t.jpg (http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/26780/CSforweb3-L.jpg)
Manual 'box is a luxury denied to CSL owners
Of course, it is possible to bag an E46 M3 for significantly less. Indeed, if you're brave enough to take on a car with nearly 150,000 miles and a new engine, this early M3 (http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-3-series-e46-m3-2001/915809) can be had for under £6,500. However, when just a couple of thousand pounds more buys this just-serviced 2002 M3 (http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-e46-m3/714364), it seems wise to spend a little bit more to secure a lower-mileage car.
Spending more than four figures means some of the best E46 M3s are within grasp such as this Phoenix Yellow manual (http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-m3-3-2-2dr-fsh-black-leather-only-34k/677921) version. Some of the very last special-edition M3s are being sold in the teens but, against the aforementioned CS, the premium appears unnecessary.
Finally, whilst it isn't as dynamically capable as the coupe, an M3 Convertible (http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/y-bmw-m3-cabriolet/701802) is more than a match for its open-topped Mercedes and Audi rivals. Just under £7,000 buys a manual convertible with a full BMW service history.

http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/26780/CSforweb5-t.jpg (http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/26780/CSforweb5-L.jpg)
Think of the CS as an 'M3 Plus'
With so much choice, choosing the right M3 isn't an easy task. Messrs. Harris and Trent are advocates of the basics-is-best philosophy; a manual car with the 18-inch wheels. Personally, the lure of that CS would probably prove too strong, especially given its rarity as a three-pedal car.
There are a few key points to be wary of with any E46 M3; for a comprehensive list, see the PH M3 buying guide (http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=25931). It is vital to ensure the first running-in service was completed at 1,200 miles, and check any SMG-equipped cars for undue clutch judder. But the wealth of E46s for sale attests to their inherent dependability, only boosting its credentials as a used purchase.

BMW M3 (E46) CS
Engine: 3246cc straight six
Transmission: Six-speed manual, RWD
Power (hp): 343@7,900rpm
Torque (lb ft): 269@5,000rpm
CO2: 323g/km
MPG: 21.1
Recorded mileage: 64,000
First registered: 2006
Price new: £43,555
Yours for: £13,990

Neil M
06-12-2012, 06:15 PM
The particular CS has been around for ages with it pimped out windows, sorry Privacy glass, it first appeared in Hamann guise, badges everywhere and mostly in the wrong places.

They now appeared to have either fallen off or have been removed and replaced with BMW ones. However the go faster number plate carrier remains, £2/3K over similar ones which have sold, and at £14 I definitely don't see it going anywhere. :whistle:

LeinsCSL
06-12-2012, 06:23 PM
There's some load of sh1te being written in that thread. The one about the "CS being 98% of a CSL" especially :hahaha:

chrisburns
06-12-2012, 06:26 PM
words cannot quantify just how much I dislike PH. It really is the worst online community in the entire world.

Yanto
06-12-2012, 06:28 PM
words cannot quantify just how much I dislike PH. It really is the worst online community in the entire world.

Snob ;)

LeinsCSL
06-12-2012, 06:29 PM
words cannot quantify just how much I dislike PH. It really is the worst online community in the entire world.

I pointed out that I'd never seen a CS with mud-flaps Chris, so they agreed to reduce it to 97% ;)

chrisburns
06-12-2012, 08:16 PM
Snob ;)

Chav

I pointed out that I'd never seen a CS with mud-flaps Chris, so they agreed to reduce it to 97% ;)

Fook you Leins :blalalala:

Yanto
06-12-2012, 08:25 PM
I pointed out that I'd never seen a CS with mud-flaps Chris, so they agreed to reduce it to 97% ;)

:hahaha:

Trawler
06-12-2012, 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisburns
words cannot quantify just how much I dislike PH. It really is the worst online community in the entire world.
Snob



Snob ;)


That makes to of us. At least we are adding a bit of class.

Yanto
06-12-2012, 08:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisburns
words cannot quantify just how much I dislike PH. It really is the worst online community in the entire world.
Snob






That makes to of us. At least we are adding a bit of class.

At least I can spell ;)

Trawler
06-12-2012, 09:08 PM
At least I can spell ;)

Deliberate ploy to make the great unwashed feel superior now & again

Yanto
06-12-2012, 09:47 PM
Deliberate ploy to make the great unwashed feel superior now & again

Guarantee that last post was spellchecked to fook !! :hahaha:

Best,

LDN Chav :birdman: :smokin:

chrisburns
06-12-2012, 11:29 PM
Deliberate ploy to make the great unwashed feel superior now & again

touche :wink:

Guarantee that last post was spellchecked to fook !! :hahaha:

Best,

LDN Chav :birdman: :smokin:

you coming saturday chav ?

Yanto
06-12-2012, 11:52 PM
touche :wink:



you coming saturday chav ?

May pop up for a couple of hours mate...

chrisburns
07-12-2012, 12:06 AM
May pop up for a couple of hours mate...

good stuff, will be good to meet you. You should bring 'THE' shoes :hahaha:

Yanto
07-12-2012, 12:25 AM
good stuff, will be good to meet you. You should bring 'THE' shoes :hahaha:

They never leave the boot...

Yup, be good to meet you and G.

83SY
07-12-2012, 09:45 AM
words cannot quantify just how much I dislike PH. It really is the worst online community in the entire world.

What could PH stand for ??? :smokin:

billyboysm3
07-12-2012, 11:58 AM
They never leave the boot...

Yup, be good to meet you and G.

What going on Sat? U lot going dogging again?

Billy

Bounce
07-12-2012, 03:58 PM
What going on Sat? U lot going dogging again?

BillyThey all drive up to a remote layby and meet up in the W.C. for a chat.:gayfight:

mattCSLnut
07-12-2012, 09:07 PM
I pointed out that I'd never seen a CS with mud-flaps Chris, so they agreed to reduce it to 97% ;)

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

Yanto
07-12-2012, 11:08 PM
What going on Sat? U lot going dogging again?

Billy


Silverstone - looksy and pax, not driving mate. In ?

O'Neill
07-12-2012, 11:36 PM
might pop up to give the old dog a run:thumbs:

shimmy
07-12-2012, 11:40 PM
might pop up to give the old dog a run:thumbs:

Well be there about 1pm I think,

Bring helmets for passenger rides

O'Neill
07-12-2012, 11:43 PM
Well be there about 1pm I think,

Bring helmets for passenger rides

Cool:thumbs:

shimmy
08-12-2012, 09:13 PM
Cool:thumbs:



5 SG and one horrible black one getting ragged senseless at Silly today.

Shimmy, Yanto, ONeill, Nords, Azrael, ............DuncanR.

O'Neill
08-12-2012, 09:23 PM
5 SG and one horrible black one getting ragged senseless at Silly today.

Shimmy, Yanto, ONeill, Nords, Azrael, ............DuncanR.

Duncs car is a whore, It's felt more arses than you:wink:

Yanto
08-12-2012, 09:28 PM
5 SG and one horrible black one getting ragged senseless at Silly today.

Shimmy, Yanto, ONeill, Nords, Azrael, ............DuncanR.

I think there was another SG mate ? Parked across from us with a PP..

Yanto
08-12-2012, 09:29 PM
Was FOOKIN cold .....that I am sure of !

shimmy
08-12-2012, 10:14 PM
I think there was another SG mate ? Parked across from us with a PP..

PP?

Yanto
08-12-2012, 10:51 PM
Private plate

Straightsix
12-12-2012, 03:24 PM
There are quite a few M3 CSLs over £35k mark including at BMW Dealers. I cannot promise you anything on their condition however

GregorJP
12-12-2012, 05:57 PM
Private plate

If the plate was M3 TBV (not my choice, but haven't got round to changing it) and it was parked on the other side of the car park just opposite the PGT garage and the gaggle of other CSLs, then that was my car. Considered taking it out on the track, but instead we had the maiden voyage of...

...Rodney :smt055

You may have overtaken him. Most people did. We were a little nervous of binning him on the ice in his first voyage. But once we got the feel of it, he did alright in the afternoon. Set-up is a little too biased to traction at the rear, but once that's sorted and we've fitted an E46 steering rack, he should be good fun.

Neil M
12-12-2012, 06:06 PM
Who put the bonnet stripes on? They're the wrong way round - LtoR LB/DB/R, if it's worth doing it's worth doing right :supz: it's all in the detail.:thumbs:

GregorJP
13-12-2012, 09:48 AM
Who put the bonnet stripes on? They're the wrong way round - LtoR LB/DB/R, if it's worth doing it's worth doing right :supz: it's all in the detail.:thumbs:

Not guilty. The stripes were on when we bought him. To be honest, stripes being on the wrong way are the least of his problems.