GTR

[derek]

Anyone any experience of Nissan GTR had a test drive today in a stage 1 with 550 bhp couldn't believe how good it was the grunt out of corners was amazing first time I have got in Csl and it felt really slow

[Bounce]

Anyone any experience of Nissan GTR had a test drive today in a stage 1 with 550 bhp couldn't believe how good it was the grunt out of corners was amazing first time I have got in Csl and it felt really slowLawsy and Grant;)

[derek]

I have spoken to grant a lot about m5 or m6 and I have now ruled out m5 or m6 as gtr is so much better

[Bealo]

I test drove one before i got the 911 Turbo.

The only thing what really impressed me was the grunt and the gearbox.

I didn't like the way it eats brakes on track on how you have to watch the transmission temps on track!!!

I think its a few spirited laps then in for a cool down which sucks after owning a CSL where you can spend pretty much aslong as you want on track.

As a fast road car i guess they are great.

Try a 996 Turbo if your thinking about a change..... I'm over the moon with mine. :-D

[bryce]

I had a seat in one, didnt even start it. The interior was enough to make up my mind.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

All the ones I have seen and spoken to on track days have over heating gearbox issue's, so they ave spent a lot of time cooling down :mad:

[DazBlackCSL]

I have spoken to grant a lot about m5 or m6 and I have now ruled out m5 or m6 as gtr is so much better

Pork Derek:-D

[Yanto]

Driven one twice at 2 Silverstone experience days. Monster performance but they like a drink ! They were re-gassing them very very regularly. Made Oli Reed look reserved !

Pax in Lawsys at Donny also. Look ace in red....really suits them IMO.

I think parts are pretty expensive (eg if you need to replace bumper) but will let the more informed comment.

An accomplished, devastatingly quick licence loser :supz:

[plumber vic]

Get GT3 more fun less £ in long term:whistle:

[shane@mbtech]

Awesome cars, and for a predominantly road based car they unbeatable IMO.

I upgraded my discs to AP's and Pagid RS29's pads, race fluid and after 3 laps at Donny they were fading, stopping from 140mph+ down the back straight. - I think they might need more aggressive pads ie carbotech xp12-14.

My gearbox temp was up to the temp where Nissan say the fluid needs changing, that was after 3 laps too. additional coolers can be fitted

It monstered the juice on track.

Depending on what year you go for, service intervals are too short.

Tyres can be expensive. Although lesser performance tyres can be had for less money.

Launch control on them is manic.

Easily tuned to reliable 600bhp.

They are a nice car to drive, very easy to go quick. Bit harder to go really really quick. I found if you drove it smooth like you have to drive the CSL it was slower than when I drove it aggressively. My take on that, is the wizardry in the trick diffs is better than the chassis is. It would be an awesome car to drive to the ring/spa and in standard form will do mid 2.40's @ Spa.

Prices seemed to have halted declining too, and seem to have settled, surprising me as that was one reason why I sold my last one. I was scared of them declining quickly.

There are a high number of great tuners out there. My mate tunes them and started on the import ones before UK release, so he knows his stuff.

[Jaw_F430]

Had mine for 2 years, no track work but a couple of runs up Santa Pod and Raf Marham. Awesome cars. I did have the gearbox software updated by Litchfields which transformed the way the car engaged the clutch for 1st gear and reverse manoeuvres.

Service costs are high, tyres are expensive and sometimes difficult to get hold of but none of this matters when you hit the loud pedal :supz:

[derek]

Thanks for the help and comments

Awesome cars, and for a predominantly road based car they unbeatable IMO.

I upgraded my discs to AP's and Pagid RS29's pads, race fluid and after 3 laps at Donny they were fading, stopping from 140mph+ down the back straight. - I think they might need more aggressive pads ie carbotech xp12-14.

My gearbox temp was up to the temp where Nissan say the fluid needs changing, that was after 3 laps too. additional coolers can be fitted

It monstered the juice on track.

Depending on what year you go for, service intervals are too short.

Tyres can be expensive. Although lesser performance tyres can be had for less money.

Launch control on them is manic.

Easily tuned to reliable 600bhp.

They are a nice car to drive, very easy to go quick. Bit harder to go really really quick. I found if you drove it smooth like you have to drive the CSL it was slower than when I drove it aggressively. My take on that, is the wizardry in the trick diffs is better than the chassis is. It would be an awesome car to drive to the ring/spa and in standard form will do mid 2.40's @ Spa.

Prices seemed to have halted declining too, and seem to have settled, surprising me as that was one reason why I sold my last one. I was scared of them declining quickly.

There are a high number of great tuners out there. My mate tunes them and started on the import ones before UK release, so he knows his stuff.

Cheers Shane. I was looking at it mainly as a road car a bit surprised how weak it seems for doing any track days with the gearbox and brakes, Ii know they raised the max gearbox temp in europe due to the hotter weather. The one I drove has been chipped and the main dealer will put manufactuers warranty on it which is a must when a replacement engine is quoted at £40k. Always looked at having a car for several years maybe should look at it shorter term for a bit fun and keep csl as well. Dont think I could hand over the csl keys, but that GTR was just awesome

[shane@mbtech]

Thanks for the help and comments



Cheers Shane. I was looking at it mainly as a road car a bit surprised how weak it seems for doing any track days with the gearbox and brakes, Ii know they raised the max gearbox temp in europe due to the hotter weather. The one I drove has been chipped and the main dealer will put manufactuers warranty on it which is a must when a replacement engine is quoted at £40k. Always looked at having a car for several years maybe should look at it shorter term for a bit fun and keep csl as well. Dont think I could hand over the csl keys, but that GTR was just awesome

They do leave a lasting impression Derek:smokin:

[derek]

They do leave a lasting impression Derek:smokin:

I couldn't stop smiling when it hit 4krpm kept waiting for traction to break and not a chrirp out the tryes. :-D:-D Awaiting a price for the csl then i'll make a decision. Thought it would be a sensible car for winter with 4wd :-D

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I couldn't stop smiling when it hit 4krpm kept waiting for traction to break and not a chrirp out the tryes. :-D:-D Awaiting a price for the csl then i'll make a decision. Thought it would be a sensible car for winter with 4wd :-D
If your thinking of getting rid of CSL, let me know about your slicks :thumbs:

[derek]

If your thinking of getting rid of CSL, let me know about your slicks :thumbs:

Vultures have started allready:-D

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Vultures have started allready:-D
Just thought as a bigger car you would need more room in the garage :whistle:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

There is a lot for sale in Autotrader :thumbs:

[derek]

Just thought as a bigger car you would need more room in the garage :whistle:

Thanks Craig I appreciate you help sorry I didn't realise you well helping me :notworthy::notworthy:

[0836whimper]

A vid I took of a passenger lap of the Ring in a GT-R in 2010.
Includes some CSL's too, maybe people on here ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJYILlbeNY&list=UUf2ehWT_7pYDZleC07mQ5xw&index=11&feature=plcp

My memories included overtaking a Caterfield with two wheels on the grass and the car's seeming ability to just deal with anything thrown at it. Sooo much grip, just bullied the track. Fantastic experience.

[M3ACS]

I came from a CSL, had the GTR for over a year and a half, just sold the GTR and will be returning back to a CSL here are my reasons:-

- Huge amount of cash to be sitting in the garage at the risk of high depreciation. 59 plate GTRs UK spec in Black and Grey are easily going for £35K now a days, I was lucky to have white and white GTRs seem to be holding their value better. However the 'trend' of white I think will be changing next year and I didnt want to see the high losses in depreciation so sold it whilst white still commanded a premium. Im confident in two years time £25-30K will be the norm for these cars.

- I think this because the GTRs are an expensive car to run. Tyres cost £2K and can only be bought from Nissan, you can try cheaper tyres and I did but they just dont perform as good, in the end I just kept my eye on for sale threads and bought second hand and stored them! Pads and Disks are also stupid price from dealers so I went AP and Pagid but still looking at circa £1k plus for the fronts.

- They need servicing every 6 months regardless of use, this is pretty expensive for a weekend car.

- Nissan garage are idiots if you buy a GTR dont go to Nissan go to Litchfields they are awesome!

- They drink like alcoholics in a liquor store. Circa £300-400 per track day!

- You cant go to any UK track day if you upgrade the exahust they always trip the db limit. Whats annoying though is that without the upgraded exhaust the car is just too quiet and you cant sense the speeds your going which can be dangerous for your license.

- The speeds are sensational and after a few suspension mods (ARBs & Coilovers) they handle like nothing else and you feel super safe and confident. Problem with this is that you need to be absolutely gunning it to feel like your driving, otherwise everything just feels clinical..

Ill stop rambling now, I loved owning the GTR but I miss having a car with a soul and thats why I sold out and now on the search for a CSL with APs for next year. ;)

[derek]

I came from a CSL, had the GTR for over a year and a half, just sold the GTR and will be returning back to a CSL here are my reasons:-

- Huge amount of cash to be sitting in the garage at the risk of high depreciation. 59 plate GTRs UK spec in Black and Grey are easily going for £35K now a days, I was lucky to have white and white GTRs seem to be holding their value better. However the 'trend' of white I think will be changing next year and I didnt want to see the high losses in depreciation so sold it whilst white still commanded a premium. Im confident in two years time £25-30K will be the norm for these cars.

- I think this because the GTRs are an expensive car to run. Tyres cost £2K and can only be bought from Nissan, you can try cheaper tyres and I did but they just dont perform as good, in the end I just kept my eye on for sale threads and bought second hand and stored them! Pads and Disks are also stupid price from dealers so I went AP and Pagid but still looking at circa £1k plus for the fronts.

- They need servicing every 6 months regardless of use, this is pretty expensive for a weekend car.

- Nissan garage are idiots if you buy a GTR dont go to Nissan go to Litchfields they are awesome!

- They drink like alcoholics in a liquor store. Circa £300-400 per track day!

- You cant go to any UK track day if you upgrade the exahust they always trip the db limit. Whats annoying though is that without the upgraded exhaust the car is just too quiet and you cant sense the speeds your going which can be dangerous for your license.

- The speeds are sensational and after a few suspension mods (ARBs & Coilovers) they handle like nothing else and you feel super safe and confident. Problem with this is that you need to be absolutely gunning it to feel like your driving, otherwise everything just feels clinical..

Ill stop rambling now, I loved owning the GTR but I miss having a car with a soul and thats why I sold out and now on the search for a CSL with APs for next year. ;)

Thanks M3ACS appreciate the information loads of good info there. Got some thinking to do.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Thanks M3ACS appreciate the information loads of good info there. Got some thinking to do.
Hopefully you will keep the CSL, will you be at Silverstone 23rd Nov with Grant :thumbs:

[toplad]

I came from a CSL, had the GTR for over a year and a half, just sold the GTR and will be returning back to a CSL here are my reasons:-

- Huge amount of cash to be sitting in the garage at the risk of high depreciation. 59 plate GTRs UK spec in Black and Grey are easily going for £35K now a days, I was lucky to have white and white GTRs seem to be holding their value better. However the 'trend' of white I think will be changing next year and I didnt want to see the high losses in depreciation so sold it whilst white still commanded a premium. Im confident in two years time £25-30K will be the norm for these cars.

- I think this because the GTRs are an expensive car to run. Tyres cost £2K and can only be bought from Nissan, you can try cheaper tyres and I did but they just dont perform as good, in the end I just kept my eye on for sale threads and bought second hand and stored them! Pads and Disks are also stupid price from dealers so I went AP and Pagid but still looking at circa £1k plus for the fronts.

- They need servicing every 6 months regardless of use, this is pretty expensive for a weekend car.

- Nissan garage are idiots if you buy a GTR dont go to Nissan go to Litchfields they are awesome!

- They drink like alcoholics in a liquor store. Circa £300-400 per track day!

- You cant go to any UK track day if you upgrade the exahust they always trip the db limit. Whats annoying though is that without the upgraded exhaust the car is just too quiet and you cant sense the speeds your going which can be dangerous for your license.

- The speeds are sensational and after a few suspension mods (ARBs & Coilovers) they handle like nothing else and you feel super safe and confident. Problem with this is that you need to be absolutely gunning it to feel like your driving, otherwise everything just feels clinical..

Ill stop rambling now, I loved owning the GTR but I miss having a car with a soul and thats why I sold out and now on the search for a CSL with APs for next year. ;)

I enjoyed your ramblings:thumbs:

[derek]

picked up car today just have to scratch this itch

[deanobeano]

Excellent mate.

You are a lucky bloke to have one of these has your daily snotter!

You do know you've parked it in a disabled parking slot!

Looks the dogs!

[Bounce]

Very nice Derek,when you've done a few miles,let us know what you think.:thumbs::thumbs:

[deanobeano]

Forgot to add, how was the drive back?
and what was the MPG!

[rstoughy]

Superb :supz:

Soon to be seen at a track near you?? :whistle:

[derek]

Very nice Derek,when you've done a few miles,let us know what you think.:thumbs::thumbs:
Done 3/4 tank since 18:00 tonight 590bhp its brilliant, csl still has it's own garage gtr has to share with wifes car

[derek]

Superb :supz:

Soon to be seen at a track near you?? :whistle:
It will be at Silverstone or Donny this year it would be hard on car at knockhill

[derek]

Excellent mate.

You are a lucky bloke to have one of these has your daily snotter!

You do know you've parked it in a disabled parking slot!

Looks the dogs!
Just for the record this was where i picked up car at the garage(I'm not like George Osborne). Detest people parking in diabled spaces who dont need them.

[CSLScot]

I work not far from Noble's & get a good view of Seafield Mmor Rood from the office - hearing potential buyers or mechanics gunning them up & down the road is a regular occurrence. They sound great when booted hard & that gear change is so fast!

[Bealo]

Congrats Derek..... Hope you like your new steed..... :thumbs:

[derek]

Congrats Derek..... Hope you like your new steed..... :thumbs:

cheers Stu still got soft spot for 911's which seems to be the only car to out drag mod gtr

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Nice car looks good, does it come with disabled sticker :whistle:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Thought you would be out on a long drive mate, not on this site as the sun is out :-D

[Bealo]

cheers Stu still got soft spot for 911's which seems to be the only car to out drag mod gtr

We will have to see what happen when our meet lol....

Will you be modding the GTR?

[Graham]

Very nice indeed!:-D

[RolyGTIR]

Congrats Derek, glad you kept the Cecil :wink:

[derek]

We will have to see what happen when our meet lol....

Will you be modding the GTR?

It's got stage 2 mods that's enough just gets silly money after that running 590bhp

[derek]

Congrats Derek, glad you kept the Cecil :wink:

I really should sell Csl just can bring myself to put a price on it incase someone says yes

[DazBlackCSL]

Congrats Derek :beer:

Lovely little monster that, had a look at a few myself before the GT3 .. like you said once you get a proper itch for something the only thing that cures it is to scratch it !!!!! ;)

[glendog74]

Nice one mate, enjoy 😊

[digi]

congradulations on the GTR. Point to point on the road its insane. Oh, keep the CSL, you will be making one of the biggest mistakes if you sell it.

I'm not the type to keep a multi garage (as I think its decadent and un-necessary), but I'm so glad I still have my cesil right now. Completely different devices and they scratch different itches. :-D

I will sell the cesil only when I get myself a 991 GT3 with PDK.

You will move beyond stage 2, trust me, the power, delivery, hookup, and veyron dragging power bites. :finga:

If not, just get a custom tune (ben @ GTC), 3" intakes, down-pipe, 1000cc injectors, exhaust system, some MPSS (Litchfield setup), tranny cooler and you will destroy pretty much anything on the road. Keep the cesil for the track. :)

:thumbs:

[derek]

Thanks for all the comments guys. Had a great day today with the car it was good to start to scratch the itch. :beer:

[Bealo]

Thanks for all the comments guys. Had a great day today with the car it was good to start to scratch the itch. :beer:

Good to hear :supz:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

What comes after the GTR (997 GT3 RS) thats my itch :-D

[derek]

What comes after the GTR (997 GT3 RS) thats my itch :-D
I thought your itch was something more personel :hahaha: (911 is still my favourite car as well)

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I thought your itch was something more personel :hahaha: (911 is still my favourite car as well)

So after a good drive out yesterday, with the wifes new kitchen did she have a good meal waiting for you :whistle:

[derek]

No meal deal out of tesco's :hahaha:Still to finish skirting boards and hang two doors just about finished been a lot of work but it partially funded GTR so can't complain. Its been washed andd tucked up in garage away for a few days break first in 2 years

[CraigMillwardCroft]

No meal deal out of tesco's :hahaha:Still to finish skirting boards and hang two doors just about finished been a lot of work but it partially funded GTR so can't complain. Its been washed andd tucked up in garage away for a few days break first in 2 years
Have a good one :thumbs:

[AlexGTT]

Congrats Derek and good call to keep the CSL. You'll only regret selling.:wink: What a garage combo. Rain = GTR. Sunshine = CSL. Ideal!

I think the GTR is such a fabulous real world supercar. Think I'll scratch that itch as well at some point. Waiting until I can justify a GT3 or RS first.

Enjoy mate.:beer: