Questions about our CSL Air filter... [Archive]

M3_CSL

15-12-2008, 03:32 PM

Hi gents,

I would like to find out how many different brands of air filter are out there for our CSL? With the OEM filter, is it a re-branded BMC filter as seen here http://www.m3csl.de/diy.php ?

Thanx guys!

cheers,

richie

dave1

15-12-2008, 04:12 PM

oe from bmw is a bmc filter. you can get a jr filter but its special order and no cheaper :thumbs:

glendog74

15-12-2008, 04:23 PM

I saved £100 on my recent Inspection II by not having the OEM filter replaced as part of the service.

Instead I have an ITG element which cost approx £40 from Thorney and it's cleanable. :smt023

E46ACS

15-12-2008, 05:58 PM

I saved £100 on my recent Inspection II by not having the OEM filter replaced as part of the service.

Instead I have an ITG element which cost approx £40 from Thorney and it's cleanable. :smt023

Really? I assume that there where no issues from the dealer? Does it effect the warranty?

I assume that the ITG has no impact on performance?

whopwop

15-12-2008, 08:52 PM

As far as I am aware the factory filter is cleanable, in fact I am almost certain it is.
I recently had an issue with my main dealer, I thought the car was running a little down on power and was not breathing properly.
I brought the car to a specialist.... to cut a long story short, we removed the airbox, , etc, removed the filter and as suspected it looked as if it had NEVER been cleaned.
It was soo filthy that we ordered a new replacement filter as it was gone beyond cleaning., the diference is very noticable.
I am soo pisced off with the main dealer that I refuse to deal with them and have the csl and my M5 serviced by specialist that I know I can trust.

sorry ..slightly off topic...fell better now that its off my chest though :wanker:

Andyk

15-12-2008, 09:04 PM

Factory one is cleanable as far as I know and it does get pretty dirty. Worth a clean every year to be honest.

NZ_M3

15-12-2008, 10:50 PM

The factory BMC filter is definitely cleanable ... although to be honest it's not that expensive of a piece and it does get clogged up pretty quick to be honest.

The problem with cleaning it is the black outer foam seal (as seen on the new recall replacement filter gets worn over time) so personally rather than cleaning it I'd just buy a new one. The amount of crap that could get past the old filter was ridiculous to say the least.

Also I doubt you'd get any performance gain from changing the filter .. the BMC item is quite a good piece already.

dave1

15-12-2008, 10:56 PM

i never clean air filter,s just fit new its not worth messing around with, can of cleaner plastic bags gloves can of oil **** that just buy a new one fit it end of!

Mark CSL

15-12-2008, 11:03 PM

Yip i just fit a new 1 if it is very dirty

But i do take it out every month and clean it with the air line :thumbs:

M3_CSL

15-12-2008, 11:24 PM

thank you very much gents!!!

BMW Australia wants GBP 227 for a piece and with my discount, I can get it for GBP 181... they are really expensive... or probably I should just source it else where... somewhere in the UK will be cheaper I guess... Where can I get a cheaper OEM replacement in the UK besides the dealership? Pelican parts in the UK advertised it for USD 118 + shipping, that seams to be the cheapest I can find..

cheers,

richie

glendog74

15-12-2008, 11:46 PM

Really? I assume that there where no issues from the dealer? Does it effect the warranty?

I assume that the ITG has no impact on performance?

Can't see why there would be, but none for me as i'm out of warranty now anyway! :whistle:

ITG are a good filter as far as i'm told but can't see that there would be any performance benefit over standard - other than being a lot cheaper than that which BMW fleece people for!

As far as cleaning is concerned, I will only hoover/air line mine as needed and will simply swap in a new one when it gets very contaminated. I do wonder if having my induction flap removed speeds-up the contamination process, but i'm sure that it won't have too great an effect as i normally boot it once warm anyway! :hahaha:

bryce

15-12-2008, 11:59 PM

Ooh, might airline mine. How easy is it to get too?

Mark CSL

16-12-2008, 12:00 AM

glendog74

16-12-2008, 12:08 AM

BMW Australia wants GBP 227 for a piece and with my discount, I can get it for GBP 181... they are really expensive... or probably I should just source it else where... somewhere in the UK will be cheaper I guess... Where can I get a cheaper OEM replacement in the UK besides the dealership? Pelican parts in the UK advertised it for USD 118 + shipping, that seams to be the cheapest I can find..

Richie, i know someone here that just bought one from Merlin Motorsport at Castle Combe Circuit. Part no: HMP 385, $93.87 (ex VAT). It seems more expensive than what Thorney charged me in May but they do ship abroad:

http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/ITG-AIR-FILTERS-ITG-PROFILTER-BMW-BMW-3-Series/c432_439_535_2531/p8280/ITG-Air-Filter-for-BMW-M3-CSL-E46(modified-airbox)/product_info.html

Rob :thumbs: [/url]

M3_CSL

16-12-2008, 12:30 AM

cheers Rob.... :) :thumbs:

Mark... PM sent too :) :thumbs:

richie

NZ_M3

16-12-2008, 05:18 AM

Richie ... order it from New Zealand ... it's about NZ$220 from memory ...

Andyk

16-12-2008, 06:59 AM

[quote=E46ACS] I do wonder if having my induction flap removed speeds-up the contamination process, but i'm sure that it won't have too great an effect as i normally boot it once warm anyway! :hahaha:

Yes I believe it does.

M3_CSL

16-12-2008, 08:35 AM

Richie ... order it from New Zealand ... it's about NZ$220 from memory ...

Hi Tom,

That's much cheaper mate... do you know where can I get one from in NZ?

cheers,

richie

dave1

16-12-2008, 10:01 AM

Have a look on there website for your nearest stockist when i spoke to merlin they told me it was special order and it was,nt much cheaper than bmw bmc filter which was around £80 i think

NZ_M3

16-12-2008, 10:28 AM

I'll check with my parts guy tomorrow to see if the prices have gone up on these. Might be able to get one in for you and post it over.

M3_CSL

16-12-2008, 08:41 PM

cheers tom!!! :)

richie

NZ_M3

17-12-2008, 01:09 AM

Richie

Just confirmed pricing with my parts guy ... they have indeed gone up in price ... I've got my old invoice and it was around about NZ$220 about 2 years ago ... but I can only get them now for NZ$287 ...

M3_CSL

17-12-2008, 07:42 AM

Thanx heaps Tom,

Will PM you when I need one mate... cheers :)

richie

sailorbaz

08-02-2009, 08:37 AM

Just been having a nosey at these ITG foam filters Thorney is selling.

Anyone any opinions of them? I hear they're easier to clean etc, but what about noise? Performance? Throttle response? Thorney seem to swear by them, John might be along soon since the other site isn't happening lately.

Any info appreciated as I don't think my original filter has ever been changed. Looking forward to seeing what lies beneath when I remove it :bigcry:

Mark CSL

08-02-2009, 10:49 AM

I don't think my original filter has ever been changed. Looking forward to seeing what lies beneath when I remove it :bigcry:

All i will say is have a shovel ready to get the grit out :hahaha:
They gather some amount of muck m8 you will not believe :119:

That’s why I clean mine every month or so it takes about 30min.

Also i just bought a brand new 1 for M3 CSL in oz and with my discount
they are £80.20

It will be in the post tomorrow morning Richie :thumbs:

SMD

08-02-2009, 12:17 PM

I think i might get myself one of these filters! Have ben wanting to clean the airbox out for a while now!

Group Buy! :-D

bryce

08-02-2009, 12:35 PM

Im gonna clean mine this afternoon.

£80 for a filter :119: GB sounds good :thumbs:

Mark CSL

08-02-2009, 12:44 PM

The retail price from BMW is £87.06 Part No 13727838625

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii14/markcsl/IMG_0136.jpg

Look at the light that gets through the filter at the window
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii14/markcsl/IMG_0138.jpg

I shall try and see by BMW Parts Manager for a group buy

bryce

08-02-2009, 12:52 PM

Good man

bryce

08-02-2009, 01:37 PM

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/products/images/itg-hmp-library.jpg

Thorneys is a different shape from the OEM one.

Not gonna filter as well then is it?

SMD

08-02-2009, 01:39 PM

I think that is just any old pic! The filter will have to be the same shape else wont work and will just fall out! :-D

Nords

08-02-2009, 01:47 PM

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/products/images/itg-hmp-library.jpg

Thorneys is a different shape from the OEM one.

Not gonna filter as well then is it?

Yep, that will just be a 'library' picture of any old ITG filter...

DazBlackCSL

08-02-2009, 01:53 PM

I think that is just any old pic! The filter will have to be the same shape else wont work and will just fall out! :-D

Yes the ITG is the same shape :whistle:

SMD

08-02-2009, 01:57 PM

I think that is just any old pic! The filter will have to be the same shape else wont work and will just fall out! :-D

Yes the ITG is the same shape :whistle:

Thought so! :thumbs:

Andyk

08-02-2009, 02:34 PM

Will say I had an ITG on my Lotus Exige and it performed really well....better than original.

sailorbaz

08-02-2009, 03:07 PM

Oh, so far so good then. I wait and see what Thorney says when he comes along. Hopefully won't be too long.... :whistle:

s.mac

08-02-2009, 04:53 PM

I saw the vid in the tech section and was toying with having a go myself and putting one of these in.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pipercross-air-filter-BMW-E46-M3-inc-CSL-00-05_W0QQitemZ300267683063QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cars Parts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item300267683063&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

BTW great vid :thumbs:

SMD

08-02-2009, 05:25 PM

Dont know of anyone who runs a Pipercross filter!

Looks cheap tho! :beer:

glendog74

08-02-2009, 06:36 PM

I checked my ITG filter this afternoon - it was pretty minging after 10k miles since fitting! There was a small sandpit forming inside the airbox... :smt104

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww282/glendog74/DSC02686.jpg

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww282/glendog74/DSC02688.jpg

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww282/glendog74/DSC02689.jpg

SMD

08-02-2009, 06:39 PM

Looks like all members did the same today! :thumbs:

Jaw_F430

08-02-2009, 06:50 PM

May check mine next week, just washed the car today but it started snowing as I was halfway through :banghead:

How many owners have replaced the OEM filter with ITG?

Andyk

08-02-2009, 06:57 PM

Yoou do need to clean at least once a year, even more so if you do not do a great deal of miles a year.

bryce

08-02-2009, 07:01 PM

s.mac

Are the M3 and CSL filters the same??

sailorbaz

08-02-2009, 07:26 PM

No, the M3 one is much smaller sits well down towards the front end of the engine bay in an airbox. Ours sits well up high towards, as you can see the inlet trumpets. Much bigger filter, hence the more expensive part.

I am no long looking forward to removing mine now, as I've had the car 3 years and never had the Air Filter off. Whops. :bigcry:

Looking more and more like I'll be getting an ITG one though, :thumbs:

bryce

08-02-2009, 07:30 PM

Thought as much, but who am I to question an Ebay Motor Engineer... :hahaha:

s.mac

08-02-2009, 07:37 PM

who am I to question an Ebay Motor Engineer...

I had and am awaiting a reply :wink:

bryce

08-02-2009, 07:40 PM

Could make interesting reading, let us know the response. :-D

s.mac

08-02-2009, 07:49 PM

Could make interesting reading

I'm sure it will

M3_CSL

08-02-2009, 08:57 PM