View Full Version : Brembo brakes on csl ?
martin770
11-10-2012, 06:29 PM
I have been offered a full set of brembo 4 pot brakes and discs from an evo 6, does anyone know if these could be adapted to fit csl ??
An AP kit is around 2K these are £200, Thought it was worth finding out.
Neil M
11-10-2012, 07:47 PM
I have been offered a full set of brembo 4 pot brakes and discs from an evo 6, does anyone know if these could be adapted to fit csl ??
An AP kit is around 2K these are £200, Thought it was worth finding out.
I personally would advise you to stick with what you've got, at least for the moment. Either buy Pagid RS29's and some AP PRF 660 Brake Fluid with the money, or Put the £200 toward a set of AP's which are 6 Pot front and 4 Pot rear for track use, when finances permit. The existing are more than adequate to cope with fast road use, if you're after cosmetics then simply paint the existing ones Red.
shimmy
11-10-2012, 07:52 PM
From what little I know about brakes I'd just say be wary of a set up that isn't designed for the car they go on!
Don't forget a brake I guess has a design that's brakes both front and rear in a ratio that should work whereas just having a similar size disc and calliper/piston set up just might not work as well.
Just as an example a change in pad material rent to back can create skimming and skipping so god knows what an unbalanced calliper/disc set up would feel like.
Mark CSL
11-10-2012, 07:57 PM
The Brembos are shit on the evo i cant see them being better on the CSL
Just my 2p worth
upgrade the hoses fluid and add some ebc yellow stuff pads :smokin:
martin770
11-10-2012, 10:36 PM
OK thanks for all your feedback, think i will wait till funds permit ap brakes as i will be doing track days next year.
Yanto
11-10-2012, 11:21 PM
Pm mattcslnut !
Yanto
11-10-2012, 11:22 PM
The Brembos are shit on the evo i cant see them being better on the CSL
Just my 2p worth
upgrade the hoses fluid and add some ebc yellow stuff pads :smokin:
Aren't ebc shit ??
Mark CSL
11-10-2012, 11:26 PM
Aren't ebc shit ??
I had them on a 600bhp evo and run them on my csl and they are a great pad at a great price
The rs29 ar more like a switch on or off i dont like them each to there own
Steve B
12-10-2012, 08:51 AM
I've been using EBC pads for as long as I can remember and never had an issue... Plus as Mark says they are good value for ££.
Steve
CraigMillwardCroft
12-10-2012, 10:21 AM
Put the money towards the AP's but don't have them with the stock pads ask for Pagids instead :thumbs:
mattCSLnut
12-10-2012, 11:58 AM
Aren't ebc shit ??
Only if you get your info from M3 :clown: Cutters :hahaha: ;)
I run EBC RedStuff pads in my Pork derived BREMBO BBK set up for over 10K miles without any issues :thumbs: maybe I'm just a light braker :-D
FYI, a set of EBC Red pads all round (front & back) cost me less then a set of Front Pagid RS29/14.
MKoop
12-10-2012, 12:24 PM
I don't think there is any real need to upgrade the OEM setup but if you want the looks by all means go for it.
I fitted goodridge brake lines, Castrol SRS brake fluid & Performance Friction 08 Compond pads & had no issues at all doing 9 laps @ the Ring in 35° heat.
Barry C
12-10-2012, 12:56 PM
Only if you get your info from M3 :clown: Cutters :hahaha: ;)
I run EBC RedStuff pads in my Pork derived BREMBO BBK set up for over 10K miles without any issues :thumbs: maybe I'm just a light braker :-D
FYI, a set of EBC Red pads all round (front & back) cost me less then a set of Front Pagid RS29/14.
This is a bit of a false economy as the the pagids will last twice as long if doing heavy track braking. I've been through lots of sets of Pagids/EBC and carbonne Lorraine and I think Carbonne lorraine RC5+ are the best compromise between performance, price and longevity.
I agree with Mkoop, The BBK is a nice thing to have but I think the standard set up with braided lines, Castrol SRF and decent pads will be more than enough stopping power for anyone. I ran this set up on my old M3 and never had any braking problems
CraigMillwardCroft
12-10-2012, 01:56 PM
This is a bit of a false economy as the the pagids will last twice as long if doing heavy track braking. I've been through lots of sets of Pagids/EBC and carbonne Lorraine and I think Carbonne lorraine RC5+ are the best compromise between performance, price and longevity.
I agree with Mkoop, The BBK is a nice thing to have but I think the standard set up with braided lines, Castrol SRF and decent pads will be more than enough stopping power for anyone. I ran this set up on my old M3 and never had any braking problems
I found after ten roundabouts and a few long straights my standard brakes on my M3 gave up and peddle to the floor :moan:
martin770
12-10-2012, 02:08 PM
My standard brakes have braided lines and ds2500 pads, not had any issues as yet, just thinking ahead for track days....Maybe give them a go next year and see how i get on.
Barry C
12-10-2012, 02:53 PM
My standard brakes have braided lines and ds2500 pads, not had any issues as yet, just thinking ahead for track days....Maybe give them a go next year and see how i get on.
you should be fine. Have you done many trackdays? I often find people who are relatively new to track driving cook their brakes because they are on the brakes for too long too often as opposed to the quick dab of the brakes the quicker guys use.
obvioulsy it all depends on the track but as long as you're not riding the brakes, that set up should be fine but I'd change your fluid with castrol SRF - It's basically boil proof!:supz: standard fluid is useless
martin770
12-10-2012, 03:03 PM
you should be fine. Have you done many trackdays? I often find people who are relatively new to track driving cook their brakes because they are on the brakes for too long too often as opposed to the quick dab of the brakes the quicker guys use.
obvioulsy it all depends on the track but as long as you're not riding the brakes, that set up should be fine but I'd change your fluid with castrol SRF - It's basically boil proof!:supz: standard fluid is useless
Yes been doing track days for around 12 years with various cars......That makes me feel old !!!
martin770
12-10-2012, 03:06 PM
Only if you get your info from M3 :clown: Cutters :hahaha: ;)
I run EBC RedStuff pads in my Pork derived BREMBO BBK set up for over 10K miles without any issues :thumbs: maybe I'm just a light braker :-D
FYI, a set of EBC Red pads all round (front & back) cost me less then a set of Front Pagid RS29/14.
They do look nice in red :thumbs:
MKoop
12-10-2012, 03:33 PM
This is a bit of a false economy as the the pagids will last twice as long if doing heavy track braking. I've been through lots of sets of Pagids/EBC and carbonne Lorraine and I think Carbonne lorraine RC5+ are the best compromise between performance, price and longevity.
I agree with Mkoop, The BBK is a nice thing to have but I think the standard set up with braided lines, Castrol SRF and decent pads will be more than enough stopping power for anyone. I ran this set up on my old M3 and never had any braking problems
Barry, I threw on the Carbon Lorraine RC5+ pads for the Mondello track day back in Feburary & there wasn't much pad left after it. Switced to performance friction 08 compound which is an endurance pad & had no issue's and the wear rate is much improved. They also come with anti-rattle clips:-D
mattCSLnut
12-10-2012, 04:01 PM
I don't think there is any real need to upgrade the OEM setup but if you want the looks by all means go for it.
I fitted goodridge brake lines, Castrol SRS brake fluid & Performance Friction 08 Compond pads & had no issues at all doing 9 laps @ the Ring in 35° heat.
To be honest The Ring is not that aggressive on brakes as there are only a few places you need to brake hard. Into Aremberg after Schweden-kreuz :119: down Breidscheid and Bergwerk, so OEM with better hoses, pads & Race Brake fluid work OK. It's when you start doing UK track days as well, Bedford as a good example, U realise BBK is a must.
I've been there, done the upgraded OEM stuff and still ended up with BBK to cover all eventualities :thumbs:
mattCSLnut
12-10-2012, 04:05 PM
I found after ten roundabouts and a few long straights my standard brakes on my M3 gave up and peddle to the floor :moan:
It's the norm with the OEM pads, which IIRC :smt017 are made of cheese, giving up :gayfight: without a fight.
BBK all the way :thumbs: to cover all eventualities :beer:
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