Gearbox question....

[Steve B]

What's the official word on our cars regarding being manual or automatic...

The reason I ask is due to a disability my wife can only drive automatics cars (only has an auto licence)...

As far as I can see its a grey area regarding insurance as we have no clutch pedal. I await my insurance docs to have a read of the T's & C's

Thanks
Steve

[northernjim]

it depends on whether you want her to drive it Steve:whistle::-D

[Bounce]

What's the official word on our cars regarding being manual or automatic...

The reason I ask is due to a disability my wife can only drive automatics cars (only has an auto licence)...

As far as I can see its a grey area regarding insurance as we have no clutch pedal. I await my insurance docs to have a read of the T's & C's

Thanks
SteveAsk Lawsy,he had a run in with the Bizzies about it:whistle:,but I think you will find its ok for your wife to drive it on an auto licence.

[Steve B]

it depends on whether you want her to drive it Steve:whistle::-D

She's already driven it... Unfortunately she really likes it as well lol...

What issue did lawsey have..??

[Yanto]

She's already driven it... Unfortunately she really likes it as well lol...

What issue did lawsey have..??

He has several :-D

[shane@mbtech]

No clutch pedal means automatic.

The issue I had was in my pork turbo with a wanker copper who got a bollocking after seizing my car in error.

Your mrs is 100% legal to drive it.

And Yanto is 100% correct I do have lots of other issues:119:

[Steve B]

That sounds like it was a serious ball ache...!!!

Only issue now is the wife can drive it...... and worse still wants to do a lap of the Ring next yeah lol


Cheers all
Steve

[mattCSLnut]

What's the official word on our cars regarding being manual or automatic...

The reason I ask is due to a disability my wife can only drive automatics cars (only has an auto licence)...

As far as I can see its a grey area regarding insurance as we have no clutch pedal. I await my insurance docs to have a read of the T's & C's

Thanks
Steve
Hi Steve

M3 CSL has a Manual Gearbox with an Automated Clutch , so effectively & technically it's an automated manual gearbox, as per Owners Manual (p55) but obviously it can be driven like an AUTO.
I've got a strange feeling it's not officially an AUTO :smt017 so it's probably best to check with DVLA who are the Licence issuers to avoid any future nonsense with the Bizzies or Insurers.

[Neil M]

Hi Steve

M3 CSL has a Manual Gearbox with an Automated Clutch , so effectively & technically it's an automated manual gearbox, as per Owners Manual (p55) but obviously it can be driven like an AUTO.
I've got a strange feeling it's not officially an AUTO :smt017 so it's probably best to check with DVLA who are the Licence issuers to avoid any future nonsense with the Bizzies or Insurers.

I'm inclined to agree with Matt, it's a bit of a grey area as to its true designation in legal terms, but I would think that if driven in Auto mode then she would be within the law.

However should she have an accident GF, then no doubt the insurance company would use/exploit the greyness to their advantage. DVLA is the way to go and get something in writing.

[Steve B]

In that case I'll put on my best welsh accent and ring the DVLA....:whistle:


Cheers all
Steve

[shane@mbtech]

Hi Steve

M3 CSL has a Manual Gearbox with an Automated Clutch , so effectively & technically it's an automated manual gearbox, as per Owners Manual (p55) but obviously it can be driven like an AUTO.
I've got a strange feeling it's not officially an AUTO :smt017 so it's probably best to check with DVLA who are the Licence issuers to avoid any future nonsense with the Bizzies or Insurers.

I'm inclined to agree with Matt, it's a bit of a grey area as to its true designation in legal terms, but I would think that if driven in Auto mode then she would be within the law.

However should she have an accident GF, then no doubt the insurance company would use/exploit the greyness to their advantage. DVLA is the way to go and get something in writing.

In that case I'll put on my best welsh accent and ring the DVLA....:whistle:


Cheers all
Steve


There is no grey area guys. Take it from a guy who knows 100%

A car in the eyes of the law, (regardless if the car has an a manual box persee) is classed as automatic if it has no clutch pedal which the driver can operate independently.

Its only classed as manual if it has a clutch pedal which the driver presses.


http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/PracticalTest/DG_4022543

[Steve B]

As the man in the know below says....


A very nice DVLA man said exactly that... No clutch pedal and the vehicle is classed as an automatic (even thought it comes up as a manual on the DVLA system I use at work). Glad I checked as you never know what insurance companies say.:smokin:


Cheers again
Steve

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Tell her it is a manual :whistle:

[Steve B]

Tell her it is a manual :whistle:


I was tempted lol:hahaha: