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[John]

Hi guys I'm picking up my new SG CSL on Friday and I've two questions:

1) When checking the car over, bar the usual stuff, is there anything specific to look out for?

2) Anything to look out for when driving it for the first time, bearing in mind the most powerful car I've owned and driven was a 07 Focus ST!

I feel this is going to be epic after reading everyone's comments through the forums!

Thanks in advance.

[mattCSLnut]

Hi guys I'm picking up my new SG CSL on Friday and I've two questions:

1) When checking the car over, bar the usual stuff, is there anything specific to look out for?

2) Anything to look out for when driving it for the first time, bearing in mind the most powerful car I've owned and driven was a 07 Focus ST!

I feel this is going to be epic after reading everyone's comments through the forums!

Thanks in advance.

Welcome John :thumbs:

With a sensible head on and emotions put aside (as hard as that may be) :gayfight: :hahaha:

a) Rear chassis/boot floor cracks & 'B' post door catches rust under the black plastic cover, rust at the bottom of front & rear wings, rusty exhaust joints (mainly middle rear pipe to back box)

b) Rattling on start up & at idle (poss. VANOS issues), Clutch slur while changing up the gears under load, check the "SPORT" button works and the flap opens, diff clanking at slow/City traffic speeds.

... unless you consider these in the "usual stuff" category ;)

Exciting day ahead

[s.mac]

if it has warranty, there's very little to worry about.
If it hasn't just check service history, listen for rattles, noises and usual body work checks :)

dont worry about power, they are tame with traction on.

Enjoy :beer:

[chrisburns]

Welcome John, very surprised that user name was still up for grabs :hahaha:

Matt has covered things very well there, when was the car 1st registered? I only ask because as Matt mentioned some of the potential rust issues will still be covered under warranty if it is late 04.
The exhaust bracket issue seems to apply to every E46 M3 i've seen and BMW really dropped the ball designing that one. Also check the mirror brackets as these corrode badly.
Coming from your ST I imagine the lack of low down torque might be missed at first but once you get used to the car and its ways this will soon be forgotten, nothing beats a high revving NA engine let alone one that roars like the CSL :thumbs:
Dont get frustrated by the gearbox as well, once you get used to it and how to change smoothly it is great.
Are there any extras on the car?

welcome to the gang, looking forward to seeing the pics !

Oh and be sure to order some mudflaps ;)

[mattCSLnut]

Welcome John, very surprised that user name was still up for grabs :hahaha:

Matt has covered things very well there, when was the car 1st registered? I only ask because as Matt mentioned some of the potential rust issues will still be covered under warranty if it is late 04.
The exhaust bracket issue seems to apply to every E46 M3 i've seen and BMW really dropped the ball designing that one. Also check the mirror brackets as these corrode badly.
Coming from your ST I imagine the lack of low down torque might be missed at first but once you get used to the car and its ways this will soon be forgotten, nothing beats a high revving NA engine let alone one that roars like the CSL :thumbs:
Dont get frustrated by the gearbox as well, once you get used to it and how to change smoothly it is great.
Are there any extras on the car?

welcome to the gang, looking forward to seeing the pics !

Oh and be sure to order some mudflaps ;)
Drumming up some business for yourself there Chris ? :-D ;)
Re: bodywork anticorrosion BMW Warranty... any BMW registered from 2004 onwards gets a 12 year warranty. Before that it's only a 6 years anticorrosion Warranty... which unfortunately has already expired :bigcry: A proper BMW cock up as far as the CSLs are concerned as they were all build in 2003 (July - December) :banghead:

[chrisburns]

Drumming up some business for yourself there Chris ? :-D ;)
Re: bodywork anticorrosion BMW Warranty... any BMW registered from 2004 onwards gets a 12 year warranty. Before that it's only a 6 years anticorrosion Warranty... which unfortunately has already expired :bigcry: A proper BMW cock up as far as the CSLs are concerned as they were all build in 2003 (July - December) :banghead:

No just need some company :bigcry:
Mine reg sept 04 so I'm alright :thumbs:

[John]

Hello everyone, this is all very useful and appreciated!

The car is an 04 reg it has the full compliment of options: radio, climate control, climate windscreen, I think electric mirrors but not 100% on that. It's a standard car with 43k on the clock. the deal has included a years warranty and I'm glad to hear its got the body covered under warranty for a few more years yet.

I have all day to look over it so I will make notes and give it a good going over. From what I can remember on the last service it had the vanos done, I'm not mechanically minded but am assuming thats a good thing as it is mentioned in all of the buying guides.

[cslsuperfan]

is it a nick johnson car? he normally provides a puckman's warranty as part of his sales.:-D

[outnumbered]

Post the reg. on here and the collective will tell you if it has any known history...

[mattCSLnut]

No just need some company :bigcry:

:hahaha: You could always start a new Fun Club ? M.F.E.R. :wink:

Mine reg sept 04 so I'm alright :thumbs:

So yours is one of the unwanted CSLs :bigcry: and was about a year old before it got registered ;)
Mine was build in July '03 and registered on 1st of September 2003 :thumbs:

[Yanto]

is it a nick johnson car? he normally provides a puckman's warranty as part of his sales.:-D

And the rare magnesium wheels option

[Bounce]

And the rare magnesium wheels option:hahaha::hahaha:

[John]

Post the reg. on here and the collective will tell you if it has any known history...

BN04 XAW hopefully it's all good, but be interesting if anyone knows anything. It's got the 19's on it.

[chrisburns]

:hahaha: You could always start a new Fun Club ? M.F.E.R. :wink:

Mud flap enthusiasts register :whistle:


So yours is one of the unwanted CSLs :bigcry: and was about a year old before it got registered ;)
Mine was build in July '03 and registered on 1st of September 2003 :thumbs:

No BMW just spent a little longer making sure it was perfect :thumbs:

And the rare magnesium wheels option

Still cant find a set of those :-D

[mattCSLnut]

Mud flap enthusiasts register :whistle:


You've got it my friend :thumbs:

[mattCSLnut]

No BMW just spent a little longer making sure it was perfect :thumbs:


I hope BMW weren't perfecting a Friday build car :whistle: ;)

[outnumbered]

The SG car referred to on this thread:

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8474

is the one you're looking at. It's been advertised on and off since Feb this year, I guess it may be on SoR now.

So on that basis, you should check the service intervals as if it has >2 years between services, you can't put the BMW insured warranty on it.

[John]

Thanks guys this is great help.

It appears the service history has a service every year up until 2008 by Synter in Birmingham (BMW Mini dealership) and Scotthall Hampshire (BMW dealership). After that every year with Falcon BMW Engineers North East. It's looks like every year but I am to confirm with sales man tomorrow (he was off today).

The warranty they are providing is with Warranties 2000 Gold cover, this is major drive component, electrics, major component cover and breakdown cover.

Taking all the above onboard I assumed everything was ok and have been assured this by the dealer. What's your thoughts? If the car has been serviced as regular as is stated above and with those specialists it should be ok for the BMW warranty after the other runs out. Am I right in thinking that?

Cheers guys.

[Neil M]

Is it this one John?

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9141

Good luck with the purchase btw!

[John]

Is it this one John?

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9141

Good luck with the purchase btw!
Yes that's the one, can anyone shed any light? The HPI reports shown nothing untoward either. I checked to see how much it would cost to get the RAC to look over it and was surprised at the £305 cost. Maybe worth it as they would be able to spot things I won't.

[outnumbered]

Thanks guys this is great help.

It appears the service history has a service every year up until 2008 by Synter in Birmingham (BMW Mini dealership) and Scotthall Hampshire (BMW dealership). After that every year with Falcon BMW Engineers North East. It's looks like every year but I am to confirm with sales man tomorrow (he was off today).

The warranty they are providing is with Warranties 2000 Gold cover, this is major drive component, electrics, major component cover and breakdown cover.

Taking all the above onboard I assumed everything was ok and have been assured this by the dealer. What's your thoughts? If the car has been serviced as regular as is stated above and with those specialists it should be ok for the BMW warranty after the other runs out. Am I right in thinking that?

Cheers guys.

I would check with the BMW warranty people direct if they would cover the car or not. At one time it had to be full BMW SH, although supposedly this has recently changed.

[Ciaran Mk1]

Drumming up some business for yourself there Chris ? :-D ;)
Re: bodywork anticorrosion BMW Warranty... any BMW registered from 2004 onwards gets a 12 year warranty. Before that it's only a 6 years anticorrosion Warranty... which unfortunately has already expired :bigcry: A proper BMW cock up as far as the CSLs are concerned as they were all build in 2003 (July - December) :banghead:

Just a question on the anticorrosion BMW Warranty, if it's registered in early 2004 (April) is it still getting the 12 year warranty??
And is surface rust under the wing mirror mounts covered I wonder??

I'm going looking at 2 cars myself in the UK next week, trying my best to let my head rule over my heart :thumbs:

[Neil M]

Hello John, you might find this usefull
http://www.bmw-warranty.co.uk/Pages/CarDetails.aspx
and this: http://www.rubmw.ru/vincode/eng/
which will give you the specification of the car as originally supplied.

Recent history - Shimmy is the man for the job, just send him a PM and all will be revealed, good luck.

[billyboysm3]

Personally if it has been serviced every two years I would buy and stick on a mondial warranty, pay monthly, then job done.

[Straightsix]

OP ring up BMW Insured Warranty and see if they would provide cover ?
The BMW Insured Warranty is the best one to get and from what I gather the warranties other companies offer will happily take your money but when you come to claim may be tricky

Unless you are particularly mechanically minded get it looked at by a BMW Dealer with Approved Used Car Check / RAC

Also shimmy may well have some history on this.

Good luck :-)

[chrisburns]

Well John, did you get it ok??? Suppose you are out terrorising other road users already :-D

[Bounce]

Just a question on the anticorrosion BMW Warranty, if it's registered in early 2004 (April) is it still getting the 12 year warranty??
And is surface rust under the wing mirror mounts covered I wonder??

I'm going looking at 2 cars myself in the UK next week, trying my best to let my head rule over my heart :thumbs:Yes it does get the 12 year corrosion warranty,as do all UK Bmw's registered in 2004.

[Ciaran Mk1]

Yes it does get the 12 year corrosion warranty,as do all UK Bmw's registered in 2004.

Cheers, thanks for the info! Does that cover all rust? I'm just thinking of the the water traps at the wing mirrors?

[Bounce]

Cheers, thanks for the info! Does that cover all rust? I'm just thinking of the the water traps at the wing mirrors?wont cover rust spots caused by stone chips or the bases for the wing mirrors as there classed as trim.

[Straightsix]

wont cover rust spots caused by stone chips or the bases for the wing mirrors as there classed as trim.

Where about does rust normally form in the base of the mirrors ? Is this when they fold ?

[chrisburns]

Where about does rust normally form in the base of the mirrors ? Is this when they fold ?

Its the cast aluminium base that is the problem, very common on all E46 M3's.

[John]

Hi guys the car was bought and yes I have been out terrorising the neighbourhood!! What a car, I can't say anything that hasn't been said already, but now I know what you guys have all been going nuts over. What a car!

So now I need to work out how to post the pics...

[Neil M]

Hello John - The best of luck with posting pics, I'm still trying with varying degrees of intermittent success - this place has a mind of its own. I suppose it gets easier with practice once you become familiar with the process.

[chrisburns]

Hi guys the car was bought and yes I have been out terrorising the neighbourhood!! What a car, I can't say anything that hasn't been said already, but now I know what you guys have all been going nuts over. What a car!

So now I need to work out how to post the pics...

Hello John - The best of luck with posting pics, I'm still trying with varying degrees of intermittent success - this place has a mind of its own. I suppose it gets easier with practice once you become familiar with the process.

Good stuff glad to hear it John.

As for pic's, there are two options. If you have an account with photobucket or flickr you simply click on the 5th icon from the right which has a yellow background and a supposed mountain in the picture :whistle: copy and paste the location from the remote site and thats it.
The other and likely easier option is to click on the paperclip along the top, this then open another window titled 'manage attachments' you simply click on choose file and navigate your way to where ever your photos are stored on your computer, click select or double click it. You will be back at the 'manage attachments window now and you simply click on upload button and give it a few moments to do so. When it has close the screen and simbit your reply as normal.

Simples :whistle:

[Mark CSL]

Or you can do this just click Manage Attachments
Then add the picture you want :whistle:

[Yanto]

Or you can do this just click Manage Attachments
Then add the picture you want :whistle:

:hahaha::hahaha:...

Intellect of this place is dropping. I'm off to cutters :thumbs:

[DuncanR]

Yes that's the one, can anyone shed any light? The HPI reports shown nothing untoward either. I checked to see how much it would cost to get the RAC to look over it and was surprised at the £305 cost. Maybe worth it as they would be able to spot things I won't.Oh dear .. THAT one ... mmmm Spa 2009, massive shunt at top of Eau Rouge, CSL lost it big time right mess !!!
















This car wasnt involved though ! :-D ... thats my welcome to you done !

[John]

Oh dear .. THAT one ... mmmm Spa 2009, massive shunt at top of Eau Rouge, CSL lost it big time right mess !!!
















This car wasnt involved though ! :-D ... thats my welcome to you done !

Ha haha ha ha, nearly got me there! Would have been a sleepless couple of nights if you'd been serious!!

[John]

Hi guys, Ive got a couple of pics of the car up on Photobucket, check it out!

http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u631/JOHNM3CSL/62255AB9-4184-4831-BB1A-C18D9D7AE71E-3378-000007A77546CA07.jpg

http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u631/JOHNM3CSL/68DE3380-854E-4B6F-A87A-DC87322AE1CC-3378-000007AB8E8E86D5.jpg

http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u631/JOHNM3CSL/1E39D442-2E2A-49D7-AE05-46F7FFD20592-3378-000007AB911428FE.jpg

Let me know it works?

[shimmy]

Yep, works, but better to copy the IMg link and paste

[Neil M]

The Paper Clip method works best for attachments, when your finished posting your pics you better check this thread out: http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8233