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0836whimper
04-07-2012, 09:42 PM
Hi All,

Firstly hello, I'm a new member who bought a CSL in May. I had been lusting after one for three years, ever since I bought a normal e46 M3 with all the toys.

I had heard so many good things about them, they just looked so right, the sound is spine tingling and seem to have a very passionate following. There must be something in there somewhere. Then I coincidentally sat next to member jibm (http://www.cslregister.com/forum/member.php?u=184) on a plane to Austria and got talking.........we discussed E90 M3 v CSL and based wanting a rawer more GT3 experience, he convinced me that a CSL was the right car (plus there's the low depreciation bonus). So it's all his fault !

So, I had a look round PH and the CSLR and phoned DIB17 (http://www.cslregister.com/forum/member.php?u=304) who seemed to have a nice one for sale. It looked in fine fettle and after a test drive I was convinced. A sharper, leaner, meaner, faster, noisier M3 that was somehow greater than the sum of it's parts. Sale agreed.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/0836whimper/Euro%20Trip%202012/IMG_5927.jpg
Here she is :-D

First up I got it serviced at Sytners Nottingham. More on that in a second.

A road-trip to France was planned and so after hooking up with two mates, one in a Z4M and one in an S2000, we took the tunnel and headed towards the Vosges mountains.

On the way over I noticed that the oil was reading +0.1L, that didn't look good, sure it was supposed to be +1.0 (or thereabouts). Sytners insisted that an M3's oil level was supposed be at +0.0, but after I quoted the manual to the technician who worked on the car, he conceded and said to put in 0.75ltrs of oil and they'd refund me once I was back in the UK. No damage done, but driving about on minimum oil :mad:

Now, Castrol Motorsport 10-60 oil is not readily available in your average French petrol station so we had to detour to BMW Rheims where I managed to get some oil, as well as check out a GTS and especially it's chunky brakes and no-compromise wheel bolts. Mean car that.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/0836whimper/Euro%20Trip%202012/IMG_0092.jpg

Onwards to the Vosges, and some proper leg stretching revealed all the great things you lot are all already familiar with, what a joy to drive...

...until descending the Ballon d'Alsace and I heard some horrible noises from a rear wheel. Pulled over and saw that a brake caliper had lost a bolt and was undriveable.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/0836whimper/Euro%20Trip%202012/IMG_5980.jpg

So a call to BMW and the car was loaded onto the back of a rescue truck, and not before a motorbike had nailed it out of the village and almost into the back of the truck ! It swerved, crashed into a field and sent goats scattering. Rider's leather's saved him, but not nice :smt009

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/0836whimper/Euro%20Trip%202012/IMG_2848.jpg

We figured it needed a new bolt (and some threadlock this time), but as it was M specific and a Saturday we had to wait until Tuesday to have the ordered bolt fitted by BMW Belfort. They were great, much friendlier than the UK and I was allowed to wander around the work-shop and check out the car in more detail. I also now know Belfort and the campsite there quite well now...

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/0836whimper/Euro%20Trip%202012/IMG_2858.jpg

Back on the road finally and we headed south to some of the great driving roads south of Grenoble. Took the Route Napoleon down to Digne Les Bains and camped.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/0836whimper/Euro%20Trip%202012/IMG_6025.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/0836whimper/Euro%20Trip%202012/IMG_6060.jpg

Next day headed to the Gorges du Verdon and some rafting, and then split up as the S2000 and I headed back up to the alps via the Routes de Cretes.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/0836whimper/Euro%20Trip%202012/IMG_6068.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/0836whimper/Euro%20Trip%202012/IMG_6076.jpg

Then had to head back to England. But keen to get some good roads in on the way, we went via the Chartreuse (north of Grenoble) and found some great driving roads, and good views.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/0836whimper/Euro%20Trip%202012/Chartreuse.jpg

So, some initial problems, but then a great trip. The car has more than lived up to expectations, it's just the right side of a track car for everyday driving and the performance, handling and noise is just awesome.

However, there are a couple of things I would appreciate some advice on. One is the seats. I absolutely love them, at 6ft and of slim build I find them miles more comfortable that the heavyweight adjustable oned in the M3. However, the backs are ridiculously fragile and prone to scuffing. As I put bikes and camping gear in all the time, I need a solution to protect them, so any options there welcome.

The other is the exhaust. I have corrosion where the middle section and the rear section join, and BMW are telling me that I need both new components which is expensive. I know it's not a warranted item either.
Pic below of the extent of the issue, but I would have thought that there must be a sensible welding option somehow. Doing some research it's a common problem so anyone with any advice would be much appreciated.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/0836whimper/Euro%20Trip%202012/exhaust.jpg

Anyway, enough of the negatives, it's a superb car, I had high expectations and it's exceeded them, different car totally to an M3. I can't think of anything remotely near that price range that can also accommodate bikes and camping gear and still provide the thrills.

I know DIB17 (http://www.cslregister.com/forum/member.php?u=304) said he couldn't imagine selling it, but I can't now either. Some video from France. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZBtQEOe_e8&list=UUf2ehWT_7pYDZleC07mQ5xw&index=1&feature=plcp

It's a keeper.

Mark

shane@mbtech
04-07-2012, 09:48 PM
Great write up, good to see them being used as intended.

Back of the seats, if it where me I would get them vinyl wrapped. Any colour you like. Matt black would be good. The vinyl wrap is durable so will withstand scuffs etc. Come sale time, remove vinyl wrap.

As for your exhausts, any decent exhaust fabricator could sort that for you.


Where are you based?

rstoughy
04-07-2012, 10:16 PM
Great write up and looks like some good roads. My old 22b Subaru went to Grenoble to a car collector.

Heres my guide to a DIY solution to the exhaust issue.
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4279&highlight=rusty

Yanto
04-07-2012, 10:16 PM
Great write up and trip !

Bounce
04-07-2012, 10:47 PM
Great write up and trip !+1:thumbs::thumbs:

3wheels3
04-07-2012, 11:20 PM
Great write up thanks for taking the time.

Oh and thanks for reminding me what a lovely summers day blue sky looks like :wanker: - only joking btw!

plumber vic
04-07-2012, 11:26 PM
Sounds like a great trip do similar trip in September:smokin:

shimmy
04-07-2012, 11:38 PM
Great write up and good pics.

As Lawsy says the back of the seats (indeed the centre rear seat section as well) are prone to marking very easily. I'm not sure if a clear or coloured wrap will work as I'm not sure what will be the result when it is removed, but might be worth it.

As for the rear joint to the exhaust, they all rust. You might be able to pick one up but M3 ones are slightly different weight metal so watch out. Best way is to get it off and get an exhaust firm to make up a bracket out f standard parts OR get replacement rings from BMW and get them cut and welded on the box and centres section.

shane@mbtech
04-07-2012, 11:41 PM
Great write up and good pics.

As Lawsy says the back of the seats (indeed the centre rear seat section as well) are prone to marking very easily. I'm not sure if a clear or coloured wrap will work as I'm not sure what will be the result when it is removed, but might be worth it.

As for the rear joint to the exhaust, they all rust. You might be able to pick one up but M3 ones are slightly different weight metal so watch out. Best way is to get it off and get an exhaust firm to make up a bracket out f standard parts OR get replacement rings from BMW and get them cut and welded on the box and centres section.

The wrap should not mark it.

But if concerned, there is plastidip.

3wheels3
05-07-2012, 02:32 AM
Well, someone was going to post it...

http://www.ecbol.com/ecbol-pic/20110817/Leopard-car-seat-covers-Cotton-seat-covers-Brown-l2.jpg

Bealo
05-07-2012, 04:47 AM
Great write up and welcome to the forum. :thumbs:

83SY
05-07-2012, 08:21 AM
First of all great car.
I had the exhaust clamps deteriorate like yours pictured and you do need a new section, get a new clamp cut it in half and find a good welder, put the two sections together over the flange and weld them back together, good as a new one & saves buying a expensive exhaust section! Did mine when we fitted the supersprint back box and it's perfect. hope it works out :thumbs:

shimmy
05-07-2012, 08:53 AM
Their is an engineer on Cutters who has draw up perfect split brackets that just get bolted together but not yet put into production.

83SY
05-07-2012, 09:51 AM
Their is an engineer on Cutters who has draw up perfect split brackets that just get bolted together but not yet put into production.

Nice touch :thumbs: thats gunna save alot of people time & money

sailorbaz
05-07-2012, 09:56 AM
Good write up mate, despite my crappy internet connection not permitting the photos. I'd love to do a European run but from NI, it's a bit of a hike for herself as a passenger. Maybe next year together with the 10 year anniversary run...

Use the corrosion issue to get an after market solution, ;-)

0836whimper
06-07-2012, 11:59 AM
Many thanks all for the kind comments and advice. Appreciated.

I think I might try a plastidip on the seats, but don't really want to be the first !

I'll post some thoughts/questions on the exhaust situation on that DIY thread.

---

I cycle to work every day, so most driving is of the 'fun' variety. I actually miss not driving the car after few days, it's almost like a drug !

outnumbered
06-07-2012, 05:56 PM
The local Indy here reckons it's not worth replacing those rusted flanges unless the exhaust is actually blowing. If they need to remove the exhaust to do any work underneath, they will remove it right at the front and drop the whole system off to avoid having to disturb the rear joints.

3wheels3
06-07-2012, 06:30 PM
Got to say what a crappy part they seem to be as mine even cracked aswell as rusty etc. and it lives in garage & defo no salty roads etc.

Bounce
06-07-2012, 06:47 PM
Got to say what a crappy part they seem to be as mine even cracked aswell as rusty etc. and it lives in garage & defo no salty roads etc.Mines the same Wheels:banghead:

DIB17
08-07-2012, 11:12 PM
Great to hear you are enjoying the car. Seeing her again brings back lots of cracking memories. :-D

Yanto
08-07-2012, 11:30 PM
Mines the same Wheels:banghead:

Same as them all- made of fookin cheese !

0836whimper
11-07-2012, 02:17 PM
Great to hear you are enjoying the car. Seeing her again brings back lots of cracking memories. :-D

How's the replacement going ?

DIB17
18-07-2012, 02:24 PM
How's the replacement going ?

The 997 is great thanks - just need to get in on track! All my focus is on the E30 track car at the moment.

Loaded
12-09-2012, 03:32 PM
Nice shots.!